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The confused principle of Anwar Ibrahim’s supporters

“What he does privately is none of my business”

“His sexual preference is not important to me”

Ever since the stories of sex videos and sodomy charges have haunted Anwar Ibrahim’s political career, how many times have we heard the statements above from his rabid worshippers? Too many times I suppose.

These sycophants, who portray themselves as rational and very lucid in their opinion, are saying that whatever Anwar Ibrahim does privately, is none of their concern. It’s his politics, performance and policies that they would keep an eye on.

Actually, that is a logical stand. After all, whatever someone does behind close doors should remain private. Right?

But behind this naive consideration of his private life, lies a critical underlying message – that all his worshippers, who muttered those words, are actually accepting his abnormal sexuality.

They are actually implying that they believe he did all those things i.e., the sexual tryst in the sex video, the sodomy act etc. Otherwise, why say it at all? Regardless, these statements from his fans will always arise whenever the subject was broached.

But there is one thing that doesn’t jive with the beliefs of his supporters; Anwar Ibrahim  never admitted in doing all those things. In fact, Anwar Ibrahim vehemently denied all sexual misconducts. He even made police reports against all the whistleblowers of his wrongdoings.

For all the video evidence, he could never admit it. His only strength is his supporters’ lack of brain power to think analytically.

Even after experts from US had confirmed that it was Anwar Ibrahim in that video, he remains unrepentant and shameless and completely incapable of confessing his misdeeds. Thus, we come to the quintessential question to his fans – how can you reconcile and justify your belief (that he did all those awful things albeit, privately), to the fact that Anwar Ibrahim has no qualms in lying to you about it?

If you think he does it, then aren’t you offended that he chose not to own up and face the music? What kind of leader are you supporting? Someone who is not honourable enough to do the right thing and have an ounce of integrity and accountability to tell the truth?

Don’t you want a leader with integrity and accountability first and foremost? Policies, performance and politics is useless if you don’t have these two leadership traits.

Many leaders around the world resigned from their post when their illegal sexual affairs came to light. But it seems, for Anwar Ibrahim’s case, double standard is applied  generously by his adoring fans.

Could it be that the moral standpoint of his fans have somewhat deteriorated? Probably the definition of ethics has changed when it comes to Anwar Ibrahim, and what’s worse  this is acceptable for his fans.

If you are championing an unethical person, verily it shows a lot about your own ethics.

At this point it seems the unprincipled lot are wholeheartedly supporting the shameless leader. Incredibly, the fans and this shameless leader, often touted as “God’s gift to Malaysia” have kept telling themselves that they want to save Malaysia.

Their priority however, should be saving themselves first. Thank you.

92 thoughts on “The confused principle of Anwar Ibrahim’s supporters

  1. Salam JMD,
    His adoring fan is given a simple explanation to this issue.
    ” INI SALAH UMNO” INI SALAH BARISAN NASIONAL”

    Agree 100% with you. Morality and leadership capabilities are the qualities we aspire. Sadly, moral and good virtues takes a backseat nowadays.

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    • JMD and MSS,

      You are all are talking about morality and tarnishing Anwar’s image. But is his moral worse than that of Mahathir and Najib. One is the Chief White Collar robber when he was the dictator of the coutry for 22 years. Wikipedia has listed him as the 2nd richest ex dictator with an estimated wealth of US$40 billion. Where else Najib has been implicated in the Altantuya murder.
      Barry Wain has written a book Mahathir The Malaysian Maverick. He has accused him of squandering rm100 billion of the rakyats money. The norm is it is up to the person who is defamed to file a defamation suit to clear his name. Anwar was accused of being a sodomite by Khairy in a political ceramah and was sued by Anwar. Utusan Melayu was also sued for defamation and was forced to pay compensation to YAB Lim Guan Eng. Dei idiot these things are not learnt from a philosoper, they are the norms in society. If you are accused of being involved in a murder–will you keep quite and let the public call you a murderer. You said “It’s the stupid Opposition blokes like you who always make wild, unsubstantiated allegations”. But in actual fact, stupid idiots like you refuse to accept reality. I am also refraining from using more harsher words and examples. You think you are more legally literate than the 90% lawyers in the country who were appalled that the Malaysian courts can stoop so low. You accuse Anwar of having moral problems. Sodomy 1 and 2 were trumped up charges by Mahathai and Najib. Legally speaking, these charges should have been thrown out of the courts. But the courts manned by a majority of corrupted to the core judges as exposed in the Lingam video scandal made a mockery of the trial. The ex IGP Musa said in court that the victim Azizan was not taken for a medical examination but he examined the asshole of Azizan and concluded that he was sodomised. And the pariah, drunkard and corrupted to the core judge Augustine Paul accepted his testimony. Dei idiot the norm is for rape and sodomy victims to be examined by doctors—this is the standard rule. But the biggest irony was when Najib’s name was mentioned by one of the witness in sodomy 2, the defence lawyer jumped up and protested—this must be a first in the world. One of the country’s foremost criminal lawyers YB Gobind Singh Deo has asked these questions:-
      1)Why was Altantuya murdered
      2) What was the motif
      3) The 2 convicted heartless murderers have not met her before.
      4)Since they were Najibs ADC(special polis force) they were trained to take orders
      Only from their superiors.
      5) Who was the superior who ordered the demolition of Altantuya
      All these question were not answered by the compliant courts.
      Now Deepak Kishen, a former buddy of Rosmah exposed damning details of the involvement of Najib’s family in the Altantuya murder. But surprisingly till today not a single word of denial has come out from Najib’s family—dead silent.
      The Main Stream Medias not even one reported about Deepak’s expose. If such an accusation was thrown at Anwar, for weeks the MSMs and TV Tigasuku will be playing the news. And of course the polis pariah dogs would have gone after him.

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      • I’ve a problem with those who don’t paragraph their writing. It reminds me reading about the Indian Foreign Minister who spoke at the UN until the next day! But this being a free country and UN promotes freedom, I’ll have to grin and bear it!

        Now on your comment:

        Morality, or lacking thereof, includes you, the fler who says, “Chief White Collar robber when he was the dictator of the coutry” without justification. And Wain is not the ultimate arbiter on those; the courts are.

        And please do not quote Wikipedia as authority. Any Ahmad, Ahbeng and Munusamy can write in Wikipedia. Told to edit, the “facts” vary from time to time. And now it is leaking, too. The Assange fellow calls it Wikileaks. Hounded by a few countries, the bloke has been ensconced in the Latin American Embassy in London for 6 months, the Police waiting to pounce on him the moment he steps out of the premises, no sunlight, no fresh air except on the balconies. That’s what freedom to him is all about.

        Am breaking this into a few short comments. To avoid them looking cluttered and difficult to read.

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        • As though I am writing in an examination I have to strictly adhere to rules and regulations. Anyway thank you for splitting up your reply.Yes Barry Wain is not the ultimate arbiter the courts are. Any man with honour will definetely file a defamation suit against Barry for writing a book with all the damning contents–especially accusing Mahathai of stealing rm100 billion of the rakyat’s money. The amount of money is mind boggling thats why I have labelled him as the Chief White Collar Robber—sitting in positions of authority and stealing in the billions. Since you are impersonating as a lawyer why dont you advise him to file a suit against Barry and let it go to the courts for arbitration–at least it can clear his name and win a hefty compensation. Surely he wont because Barry is an internationally recognised journalist with all the relevant evidence to show the courts. He is not like the TV3suku or Utusan Meloya pariah reporters. Anwar, Lim Guan Eng and Nizar were right in suing these pariah organisations–all owned by the corrupted Umno.
          Dei blady fool, Wikipedia is an internationally recognised information provider–it is a free encyclopedia. The list of dictators provided by them has credence–you want to challenge that–why dont file a suit against Wikipedia to clear your mentor’s name. Dei fool this Mahathai is the evil behind all the problems the country is going thru.

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          • Since you began to sound like a broken record, have you actually read the book by Barry Wain? Or did you just regurgitate whatever you hear or read from others? Barry Wain never wrote Tun Mahathir stole 100 billion. It’s not USD100 billion like what you said. It’s in ringgit. He said, the financial loss during the 80’s could amount to RM50 billion and plus cost of doing business, the amount could be RM100 billion. And Dr Mahathir had rebuked Wain as soon as the book was published. You are so out of date! Read it here –> http://www.malaysian-explorer.com/malaysiaNews-mahathirDaresBarryWain.html

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            • JMD, I didnt say US100, but it was RM100 billion. You open your eyes widely and see the reply you published. Unconsciously you have exposed yourself as a great liar. Barry didnt openly say Mahathai stole the money but what Mahathai meant by:
              Dr. Mahathir Mohamad has challenged the author to provide documented proof that he had wasted RM100bil during his tenure as PM. Dr Mahathir said he reserved his right to sue author Barry Wain, who is with Singapore think-tank Southeast Asian studies, for libel. Why didnt he sue Barry but instead is asking for documented proof. If he sues Barry then he can produce evidence–but Mahathai thinks Barry is a fool to show him just like that—an idiot like you.

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              • Regardless if its in USD or RM, you did say he stole that money which, Barry Wain never wrote it that way. That makes you a liar and all your comments before this one lost their credibility. Because, you are writing them without knowing the subject matter. You simply heard about Barry Wain’s book without reading its contents.

                And yes, can you understand English? Barry Wain needs to give evidence that he wasted RM100 billion otherwise he has the right to sue. Can you ask your close friend Mr Wain to hurry up in collecting the evidence? If Wain doesn’t, that means there is no proof at all. And his readers will know that the numbers are plucked from air. I read it. Maybe you should too. And I sense Wain was writing that just to sensationalise his book.

                And speaking of suing, your icon Anwar Ibrahim never sued people that accused him either. Ummi Hafilda for instance, had gone around the country telling intimate tales of him. His one time close confidant, Zulkifli Noordin made spectacular revelations about your icon but not a squeak from him.

                Seriously, you need to start telling people that Mahathir did not steal RM100billion. Barry Wain only said up to RM100billion was wasted during his tenure through mismanagement. Maybe you should start reading that book too.

                On a side note, I love the Malaysian Maverick. Barry Wain made Mahathir looked like a tough hero in there. Have you actually read the book Tiu Nam Seng? I love the part when Wain made Tun Hussein Onn looked like a soft PM.. up to the point of weak. Probably that made Hishamuddin Hussein banned the book early on. Strangely it was Mahathir who urged the government not to ban the book.

                You want to know why? Read the book.

                Thank you.

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                • Good one, JMD. The bloke needs to be whacked prim and proper and he is this time.

                  I’d like to chip in but would wait when free.

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                • JMD, lets wait for the Anwar/Nallakarupan case to come up in the courts. The prostitute Ummi and the chief katak can give evidence in favour of Nalla and to tarnish Anwar. We will see wether Anwar will triumph like his earlier defamation suits like the Utusan case.

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      • Saying “Sodomy 1 and 2 were trumped up charges by Mahathai and Najib … But the courts manned by a majority of corrupted to the core judges,” you are not only immoral but also liable for contempt of court charges. This is the language often used by the Pakatan goons. Again, not justified and substantiated. They remain as wild allegations.

        The sad thing is that I don’t think you are even a lawyer. Failing to get satisfaction from the decision of the courts, you now want to turn this portal into a court. And I’m prepared to act as defence counsel. Particularly on unjustified and and substantiated charges. For I can go to town with the defence arguments.

        No can do, man, though I don’t mind you treating this portal as a court. And neither does JMD as he has obligingly published your comments or trumped up charges against those you accuse.

        To begin with, you should ask the Court on Sodomy II to reverse the decision that let Anwar go free. On grounds that the court was “manned by a majority of corrupted to the core judges” as you said. How about that, man? Ain’t that the fair and just thing to do? If that decision is reversed, then your side can appeal.

        Loose gun, shooting from the hip like a cowboy. You should be dragged to the court for contempt. Corrupted to the core my foot.

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        • Before proceeding further, I would like to remind you, the issues raised here have legal implications. I am not a lawyer but I am literate enough to know the truth and falsehood. And I did mention, more than 90% of the legal fratenity are disillusioned by the actions of the enforcement agencies in Malaysia especially PDRM and MACC. The Bar Coucil, which is the umbrella body for all the lawyers did also protest. If you are a lawyer, then you only rank in the 10% category who are mostly cronies or kaki bodek. So please accept the overwhelmingly majority voice. That is the reality.
          You said “Again, not justified and substantiated. They remain as wild allegations.” Dei idiot wasnt the Lingam saga openly argued in a Royal Commssion of inquiry?
          The Royal Commission of Inquiry into the VK Lingam video clip had recommended that the authorities take action against six persons, including former premier Dr Mahathir Mohamad, following evidence that they were involved in the brokering of senior judges.
          Other than Mahathir, Eusoff, Fairuz and Lingam, tycoon Vincent Tan and UMNO secretary-general Tengku Adnan Tengku Mansor were also named by the commission.
          The Royal Commission, which called a total of 21 witnesses to testify, found:
          – the video clip was authentic;
          – Lingam was engaged in a phone conversation with Fairuz in the presence of businessman Loh Mui Fah and his son Gwo-Burne, who took the video;
          – Lingam had directly influenced the elevation of judges, including the appointment of Fairuz as president of the Court of Appeal and, possibly, the latter’s further appointment as chief justice;
          – Lingam to have asked Tan and Adnan to be actively involved in the appointment of judges, in particular the appointment of Fairuz as chief judge of Malaya and subsequently, president of the Court of Appeal;
          – the phone conversation indicated Lingam’s “uncanny knowledge” of what could be considered as matters classified as being under the Official Secrets Act; and
          – Adnan could have been Lingam’s ‘source’ in the Prime Minister’s Department.
          Dei fool, you know what is corruption? I remember reading during the trial the CJ Fairuz had requested for a new handphone and Lingam had provided one. You are trying to imply that you are a lawyer–a pariah one but cunningly trying to pretend that you are not aware of the RCI. Are you impersonating as one

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          • Having written a lengthy reply to your other comment (below), I don’t propose to waste my time on this one. That it, like the others, is not paragraphed and jumbled up shows the cluttered, confused and anarchistic mind you have.

            I merely want to say here that one wonders if there is any use for you to quote cases of Commission of Inquiry. You blokes don’t even accept and respect the findings of the Royal Commission of Inquiry. Read the reactions and subsequent action of the lawyers representing the Teoh Beng Hock family on the findings of the TBH COI.

            I don’t have to explain as they are well known and in any case you Opposition blokes rarely justify or explain what you say.

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          • “- the video clip was authentic;”

            – so you must also accept that Anwar’s China Doll video was authentic too!

            Unless you have different standard of acceptance – only the one that favors you.

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      • “All these question were not answered by the compliant courts.”

        You fellows want the answers to use as proof for the case? What a cheapskate argument.

        You want to prove your case, you jolly well find the proof, man. You cannot be saying 2×2=5, then ask listeners or readers to prove it. That’s damn stupid, isn’t it?

        You blokes can’t even find the motive, let alone the proofs, ask the prosecution to provide the motive and the proof. What court in the world does that? Not even in a Timbuktu court, I don’t think.

        Then you come out saying “the polis pariah dogs”. What Chinese school did you come out from, old boy? It’s usually fellows from such schools who do that sort of things. And those descended from secret societies, thugs and gangsters brought from mainland China to Penang in the 18th Century, spread to the Peninsular and Sabah and Sarawk later. Many are in the DAP. A few like you may have lost your way into PKR.

        Using words like “the polis pariah dogs”. What utter rubbish you people.

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        • I suspected you are a pariah Umno malay lawyer or an impersonator. The general rule is the onus is on the prosecution to prove motif but this simple thing also you dont know but have the cheek to say ” And I’m prepared to act as defence counsel. Particularly on unjustified and and substantiated charges. For I can go to town with the defence arguments.”
          PI Bala said he had give the information to the police and the prosecution team when they took his statement but was surprised that all mention of Najib were eventually removed from the police statement which he reluctantly signed.
          Asked why he signed the police statement if it did not contain details that implicate Najib, he said he did so under duress–his whole family kidnapped and held against their will. Now what do you call the polis if not pariah dogs of the govt. Bala had also revealed this — Najib informed Abdul Razak that he had sexual encounters with Altantuya and that she was partial to anal intercourse. Kanni navoo chow chee bai, you underrate the Chinese as thugs and gangsters. In Malaysia, they control the economy, pay 80% of the country’s taxes. World over they are recognised as a very hardworking race with high intelligence.You are surely an Umno Malay unlike the Pas Malays who are god fearing. The Umno Malays like to kongke their anak sendiri, pemimpin Umno PEROMPAK NO 1 di Malaysia. Your anak become bohsia, kongke Bangla and Negro become pregnant and throw the baby in the longkang, tandas and from the top of flats. The pariah PDRM and MACC practice selective persecution. Everyday you can see polis dogs waiting at strategic junctions to strike at traffic offenders and settle for kopi O money—so what do you call this if not pariah dogs. The ex IGP Musang had the temerity to testify in court that he personally examined sodomy 1 victim Azizan’s asshole and confirmed that Anwar sodomised him. This must have been the greatest travesty of justice.

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          • The absurdity when you talk especially about Umno men doing their own children received a big LOL from me! Funny guy you. But at the end of the day, do you believe it was Anwar in that sex video? Since that is the gist of this article.

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            • JMD, 99% of the incest cases that appear in the media accuse Malays as the perpetrator. And of course these people can never be Pas members who are god fearing. Hence these child rapists must definitely be Umno members or their die supporters. If it was Anwar why wasnt he charged in a court of law for any offences like what they did in the sodomy case.

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          • This damn bloke whose very name shows rudeness, crudity and vulgarity now uses such gangster-like words as “Kanni navoo chow chee bai .. kongke anak sendiri ..” etc. He should realize that no one is accusing “the Chinese as thugs and gangsters”, only the likes of cibai him in the DAP are.

            The very rule he spoke about – “the onus is on the (accuser) to prove motif” must be thrown into the faces of those DAP and Pakatan Rakyat blokes who typically and endlessly makes “wild, unsubstantiated and unjustified allegations” all the time, all over the places. Even before the time DAP started the 13 May 1969 race riots, casting aspersions on the Special Position of the Malays and Bumiputeras of Sabah and Sarawak, gaining a reputation as anti-Malay and anti-Islam that Lim Guan Eng has to periodically deny to no avail, the last time being only several days ago.

            Hogging the Lee Kuan Yew’s chauvinistic and racist slogan of so-called Malaysian Malaysia, wanting equality without acknowledging that Special Position, is merely racist – racist being defined as antagonistic to the rights and interests of another race. You blokes could get away with such things before (even so the race riots occurred) but thanks to NEP, more Malays have got high education for some time already and have been able to counter your shit arguments and you cannot say anything you like without being screwed, like you are now.

            Claiming such nonsense as the Chinese paying 80% tax – the Ministry of Finance/ Inland Revenue figures show that the Chinese pay only 40% tax, the GLCs pay 40% and the Malays, Indians and others, including foreigners, pay 20%. Not just making wild accusations, but also wild claims. The rest of what you say are hogwash.

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      • the story here is about manusia bernama anuar! yang hanya tahu menyalahkan UMNO dan BN…..semua whistleblower disaman. Tapi tkda pun pemimpin BN yang saman mana org PR yang membuat mcm2 cerita yg tak sahih. Use your brainlah bro

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    • JMD said “Even after experts from US had confirmed that it was Anwar Ibrahim in that video, he remains unrepentant and shameless and completely incapable of confessing his misdeeds. Thus, we come to the quintessential question to his fans – how can you reconcile and justify your belief (that he did all those awful things albeit, privately), to the fact that Anwar Ibrahim has no qualms in lying to you about it?” What an idiot you are–just because some one from US has confirmed the video it is the truth. Why didnt the govt charge him court and produce the US evidence. I am Anwar’s able lawyers will rebut the evidence. At least Anwar comes out to the press and denies the allegations. But in Najib’s case Deepak had tarnished his image to the maximum and had implicated him in Altantuya’s murder. Why the dead silence and not a single word of denial. Is it not a BIG MALU for the country that a murderer is the PM of Malaysia.. What leadership example is he setting. Anwar is a no body–just the opposition leader in parliament and is insignificant. But Najib is the PM the international community will be mocking at us for having a murderer as the Prime Minister of Malaysia

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      • “What an idiot you are”. Yes, what an idiot YOU are.

        That “some one from US” referred to is a world renown expert, you bodoh. Again, the fact that the govt didn’t charge him in court means Anwar didn’t do what he is being accused of? What warped thinking, demented mind and convoluted logic you have.

        “I am Anwar’s able lawyers will rebut the evidence.” You a lawyer? Sounds more like a frustrated agitator to me.

        And “Anwar comes out to the press and denies the allegations” means he is innocent? He has been saying “not me, not me” for decades yet he was found guilty and imprisoned on Sodomy I and on corruption charges, didn’t he? Corrupt judges? Despite he was found not guilty by the Judge on Sodomy II? You want to be the Judge? A kangaroo court judge? I tell you, if Anwar is made to face a kangaroo court, he would have been lynched many times over.

        And you too, a kangaroo court trial judge pretender. Irresponsibly using such words as “Najib is the PM the international community will be mocking at us for having a murderer as the Prime Minister of Malaysia”. You will not only be lynched by the kangaroo court mob but your tongue desiccated, your genitals cut out like an eunuch in the imperial palace of China.

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        • Thats what the MSM like TV3suku and Utusan Meloya reported without even mentioning who the person was. Now TV3suku is facing a defamation suit by YB Nizar for falsely accusing him in the WWW1 number plate issue–serve them right. If Anwar was charged in a court of law then that statement would have been ably challenged like what happened in the Sodmy 2 by experts from Anwar’s side. I am not a lawyer, it was typo error. It should have read ” I am sure Anwar’s able lawyers will rebut the evidence. Unlike you a fraud and an impersonator–“And I’m prepared to act as defence counsel. Particularly on unjustified and and substantiated charges. For I can go to town with the defence arguments.” Dei fool, who are you trying to hoodwink. It is an indisputable fact that there are no Malays who have successfully argued in the Malaysian courts. Even your prominent Umno lawyer Shafee is not a Malay–he is an Indian convert. Most of the successful lawyers are either Indians or Singhs. I am wondering where do you stand as a defence councel.
          Dei idiot, why is Najib and his family keeping quiet despite the damning allegations against him and his wife by Deepak. Why did they force Bala to retract the first SD and replace it with an edited SD2. They kidnapped Bala’s family and forced him sign under duress. There are so many signs of crime in this whole episode. The pariah polis and the MACC pretend like nothing happened. There isnt a word published in the MSM. If only such things had happened to Anwar–for months this news will appear in the front page. Is there any justice here—NO–a great TRAVESTY OF JUSTICE. The latest being Fat Rosmah was presented with RM13 million worth of jewellery by Deepak Kishen. Not a single word of denial and PDRM and MACC as usual are quiet and obedient like pariah dogs to their masters.
          Wait till PRU13, we will see who will be lynched and genitals cut.

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        • Norizan, why ask me to fly kite when it is you who cant accept reality. I am sure I am more educated then you, if not I cant rebut what you fellows write. I feel ashamed that people like defend robbers and murderers. Are you not aware about the exposes by Deepak Kishen–or you dont understand what he said. Cronies and kaki ampoo like you are not bothered what the umno crooks commit. In selangor umno robbers have stolen the rakyat’s land are you one of them.

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  2. It’s not principles. Because Anwar and his supporters hardly have any. Or even beliefs. Because they often do and say according to convenience. The latest example is his own daughter Nurul Izzah. Saying, in a Church, that religious freedom in this country covers Malays, who are all Muslims and are subject to the laws enacted by Parliament to administer the religion of Islam, which, as the Constitution states, is the religion of the country.

    Yes, what they do behind close doors are private. But if they are against the laws – civil or religious – they are damnable. Again, because these people have no principles, they would not have scruples. They’d just do, whatever the civil or religious laws say. Caught, dragged to Court, found guilty, the bloke was imprisoned. For 6 years. Now an ex-convict.

    Those fellows of similar thinking may say “none of my business … His sexual preference is not important to me”. But, Goodness, the vast majority of voters do say it’s their business, it’s important to them when such fellows want to be leaders of the country and stand for election. They cannot be leaders when they have no principles, no steady belief in good values, unable to lead by example.

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  3. The same people who say “what he does behind closed doors is none of my business” most probably take issue with what Chua Soi Lek did behind closed doors.

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  4. He simply cannot be “God’s gift to Malaysia”. Ridiculous to be claiming so. Blasphemous, even. A bloke who sodomized – the ancient city of Sodom was ruined they say by God’s damnation because the residents of the city sodomized.

    He is the opposite of “God’s gift”. I think it’s “God’s curse”. For all our sins that have not been atoned or forgiven by God. A lot of sins by Anwar. For he sodomized again. Prosecuted under Sodomy II, now pending Appeal by the Prosecutor.

    And the China doll. The RM3 billion his ex-Personal Assistant was previously reported in the papers to be saying he amassed as Finance Minister. Yet he got the American Jews etc to remit money to anti-government NGOs in Malaysia. The list goes on and on.

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  5. It has nothing to do with principles. Anwar’s supporters have been promised goodies if he comes to power. They believed him because he has shown that he can presently dispense financially and materially (with foreign funds readily available).

    His only talent is that he can convince gullible and power-hungry people. Those close aides who have the integrity and honour have since absconded after discovering the REAL Anwar.

    The present “loyal” supporters are just in for the free ride.

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  6. “He even made police reports against all the whistleblowers of his wrongdoings.”

    After Anwar made a Police report, the Gagasan Anti Penyelewengan Selangor (GAPS) made a Police report asking the Police to reveal the identity of the man in the sex video that even the experts in US said was Anwar.

    Wonder why the Police didn’t reveal until now. If the reason is to let him tighten the noose round his neck before the general elections, I support it. If that man cannot be hung, let him hang himself.

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  7. Well, even if this was indeed UMNO’s conspiracy, it does not deny the fact that he had sex with someone else. PR was gladly calling out for CSLs resignation when his sex video surfaced. He admit it like a man and resign asap. What did Anwar do? Deny even when the worlds best expert pinpoint the guy as him, denythat his perut is not that big. But thanks his legion of monkey brain supporters, he still remains as a leader, a shameless and unmoral one at that.

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  8. I used to admire Anwar for his oratory skills and his knowledge of Islam…he was known for his speeches in which he frequently quoted the Quran. But by the grace of Allah, it is now revealed that the man is a traitor who is willing to sell his country to outside forces (funding his anti-government activities) just to get to Putrajaya. And worse, he is also bisexual. It is also shown by the recent comments made by his daughter in Church that the whole family subscribes to liberalism and LGBT lifestyle. There is no place for such a leader in Islam. Let not the punishment of Sodom and Gomorrah befall this beloved country (according to the Book of Genesis, the Hebrew Bible, the New Testament and the Quran, the inhabitants of the kingdoms of Sodom and Gomorrah who practised homosexuality, incurred the wrath of Allah and were wiped out from the face of this earth….hence, the term “sodomy” to describe homosexuality). May Allah save this beloved country! Allahuakbar!

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    • Somehow I never admired, or even liked the fellow. Something in his face and in his ways made me not trust him. I was a student leader, too. But not the gullible kind, never got arrested or jailed. I never envied him being picked by Tun Mahathir, brought into UMNO where he rose to the 2nd most important post in the party and in the country.

      But when he became impatient and bit the hand that brought him the opportunities, I loathed him. When he started bad-mouthing the country abroad, consorted with the Jews and the Zionists who sent money to anti-national elements in this country, I was disgusted at him. When he threw all rules of decency and prostituted himself to the Zionist Israel by supporting the defence of the security of Israel instead of supporting the suffering Palestinians, contradicting his own coalition partner PAS, I lost all respect for him. A man utterly with no principles.

      I feel very sad for his party members and supporters. Being misled and confused by his demagoguery.

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    • Anwar does not have good oratory skills. He shouts and throws tantrums like a little baby when he talks on the podium. It’s exactly like how debating in Bahasa Melayu turns out. People shouting at the top of their lungs to see who can over shout the other.

      When society is more mature they see through the BS. I think it’s more to the fact that you have matured more and have noticed that while the shouts may have become louder, it doesn’t have context.

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  9. Health Director General was told to go on leave pending Public Services Commission decision on his khalwat offence.

    PKR top rung cannot do that to Anwar for his sodomy, China doll and other offences. Coz they are his wife, daughter and crony Azmin Ali.

    But can PKR members tell him to do so? Maybe not, eh, coz they are a confused lot anyway.

    Btw have they had an annual general assembly or party convention like PAS now having their Muktamar? So that the members can be made not confused by the less unprincipled fellows. But then maybe the Neocons, Jews and Zionists in US and elsewhere don’t care whether PKR is really democratic or not. So long as Anwar and the NGOs they funded carry out activities that weaken the Muslim Government in Malaysia.

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  12. These PKR supporters are mainly shall I say Bangang(NS dialect).My definition of Bangang is
    Knowing the truth,
    Seeing the truth,
    But still believing the lies.
    May God blessed them.

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    • How kind of you, askartua, asking God to bless those who know the truth but still believe in lies. I know you’d have whacked them with Armalite M161A or whatever rifles you used in your askar days if they were communist terrorists.

      But believe you me those who spread the lies are like the commies. Lim Kit Siang had spread a lot of lies since before the race riots of 1969 in which communists and subversives took part. He recently even demanded that the communist terrorist chief Chin Peng be allowed to enter Malaysia. He cannot and must not be allowed – he is not even a Malaysian citizen, as stated by the History Professor Tan Sri Khoo Kay Kim who checked the records at the National Registration Dept.

      And Anwar still keeps spreading lies and making wildly exaggerated claims that confuse his followers and supporters. Imagine he said Bersih 3.0 had 300,000 participants when the Police, with still and helicopter borne cameras, said there were only 25,000. And he said he could get enough katak lompat to form a PR government on 16 September 2008. And after what happened at the PAS Muktamar on Sunday, he now said Hadi Awang of PAS can become PM if PR reaches Putrajaya. Balderdash. His his head must be reeling, his heart thumping with anger, his emotions burning with fire.

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  13. His supporters hear what they want to hear, see what they want to see, believe what they want to believe. these people, you see, they live in a make believe world, a world that exists only in their minds and hearts. Is it any wonder than that when he is elevated as God’s Gift by his wife, they all roared and exalted him to the high heavens ?
    A man is known for the company he keeps. In the case of Anwar Ibrahim, a man is known for the mental and psychological conditions of his supporters. No wonder he keeps getting away with all his escapades. With the mental and psychological conditions of his supporters, all he has to do every time he’s caught with his deeds is to proclaimed “Ini kerja UMNO”. There you have it folks.

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  14. it’s all in the delivery, people. Remember how George Bush wiggle his way out of the WMD fiasco? It’s the same thing here. Till today, no one dared to challenge Bush Jr that the invasion of Iraq was a farce. Likewise, once PR said.. “oh, it doesn’t matter” “oh, case closed”… no one said anything. That’s the problem.

    Anwar is just one of the problems. Remember the Eli Wong case? What happened to that case?

    They can commit anything and yet it appears that they are the “victim” and it’s all a conspiracy and what they did was alright. It’s madness. I understand the die hard supporters but if it doesn’t sstop, it will be a big problem.

    I for one do not want such a person to be a leader of my country. It will only create other problems.

    And why the hell is PAS following along? Never heard of “bala”?

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    • Not just the delivery of news etc, Sir. Also the misrepresenting, misleading, misreporting and mis-analyzing of whatever bits of information they got. Even the highly regarded General Colin Powell brought to the United Nations war debate a small test tube purportedly containing dangerous chemicals of the kind said to be aplenty in the possession of the Iraqis.

      But the valiant General, somewhat admitted his mistakes for trusting those (CIA etc) who brought him the info, appeared to be remorseful and chose not to continue as Secretary of State for the wimp George Bush for a 2nd term. Alas, we can’t expect anyone in Malaysia to do that. Not least Anwar Ibrahim. He even denied sodomizing, and the Appeal Judges of Sodomy II entered it in the records that he did sodomize.

      And to mislead and confuse his party members and supporters, Anwar has an array of tools, catapults and blunderbusses that spew broken nails, rusty pellets and the like. In the form of Malaysia Kini, Malaysian Insider, Suaram, Tanganita etc. Which misinforms, twists and spins. God help us if the Pakatan Rakyat people ever reach Putrajaya.

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      • But even Malaysia Kini doesn’t seem to be confident that the Pakatan Rakyat member PAS can be good to Malaysians. They have just put out a question:

        “But can PAS be compassionate to all?”

        Saying that “After 55 years with Umno, Malaysians, especially the non-Muslims, are prepared to accept PAS if only it can do that.”

        Meaning non-Muslims have not accepted PAS yet. There’s a big condition. Which until now, so close to PRU13, they have not seen PAS fulfill. And how can PAS fulfill it? Because they have not even convinced non-Muslims that PAS will apply Hudud only to Muslims.

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  15. Anwar Ibrahim’s supporters will be more confused at the end of PAS Muktamar to day. Not so much by Anwar’s actions but by PAS people wanting their President Hadi to be Prime Minister if they win big. And Hadi welcoming the proposal. A huge slap on Anwar who has always wanted to be PM.

    PAS Ulama wing Vice Chief Mahfoz said Hadi would be PM “if PAS wins parliamentary majority” – http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v6/newspolitic.php?id=709718. Gosh, ain’t that a tall order? They’d need to win 112 Parliamentary seats to get that. Yet in 2008 they won only 23 seats (and PR parties won a total of only 82). With the fighting among the component parties on Hudud etc, Anwar’s supporters must be confounded by that kind of statement.

    And Malaysian Insider’s reported Anwar’s response as saying it can be discussed. Won’t his supporters be further confused and be asking what will there be to discuss?

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  16. What the heck “It’s his politics, performance and policies that they would keep an eye on”? Where got good in anything he does?

    Bit the hand that raised him from the gutters (imprisoned for extremist student activities), amassed RM3 billion as Finance Minister (said by his ex-Personal Assistant as reported in the papers), bad mouthed the country when abroad, got money for the NGOs wanting to destabilize the Malaysian gomen from US Jews, want to defend the security of Israel that even his coalition partner doesn’t want anything to do with them.

    You name it, he did it. Sodomy, China doll included.

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  17. Let me ask these questions:
    Did Najib ever admit his Port Dickson rendezvous with that Singer ZZ??
    Did Najib ever admit that he knows Altantutuya??Though the photo of him and Altantutuya is with the Altantuya family.Theres a limit that you can claim the photo is superimposed!To make the matter worse this Najib Fellow has got the chick to Sumpah in the mosque denying it.Why did he make it so difficult for investigation to be carry through if he is innocence ??
    On the question of morality,Najib scores lower than Anwar.The only different is that it is not his time yet.Time will tell….

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    • Awaiting rather impatiently for someone to show proof of this rendezvous with the singer and for the family of Altantuya to do the simplest thing of uploading the said photo on to the internet. Thank you.

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    • Anticon,

      You Pakatan Rakyat people never cease to amaze me. Making wild, unsubstantiated allegations, not even providing explanations of who said what, how, when and where.
      I’ve always wondered what kind of people you blokes are, what education, what kind of upbringing you have.

      I suppose you people have not much education. The kind who will simply utter anything you like, anywhere you like, any time you like. Well, I have news for you all. You can no longer do that with impunity. You ill not be allowed to do so without being challenged.

      You simply cannot compare DS Najib and Anwar. Anwar has been proven by the courts, found guilty and sent to prison. Can’t you even appreciate that simple difference?

      As JMD has said, you have not shown an iota of proof to your wild allegations on Najib. You are being nasty. trying to smear the Prime Minister of this country and being libelous, too. You should be dragged to the Court and sued to bankruptcy. But you are hiding behind your blogging name and email address. You can only be damned. Damn you.

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      • Actually the Anticon fellow can be traced. By his computer IP numbers. Such numbers exist for every computer, specific to every computer, and will appear from any computer the moment a message is sent to the Internet from that computer. No one can stop it appearing when you send messages or comments.

        That’s how the US FBI traced Al Qaeda emails. And last week they traced the source of the anonymous messages sent to a friend of Gen Petraeus, the well acclaimed US Army 4-star general who was made the Director of CIA. They were traced to his girl friend. It led to him resigning from a very powerful post, the boss of the most important intelligence organization in the world.

        Even a private individual with enough financial and other resources can do the tracing. And sure the Malaysian authorities (Police, Multi Media people) have the resources. The blokes who defaced the website of the Sultan of Perak were traced, arrested, charged in court and fined. Anticon must always remember those. And be responsible with his comments.

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    • Anticon..,

      Let’s assume for a moment and for argument’s sake that:-

      On Anwar’s part, all of the accusation hurled against him are true, from his bi-sexual escapades with some people’s wives, other women, prostitutes and that his sodomy acts with a great number of men.., are ALL true.

      Let’s also assume that Najib is also no angel.., and that:-

      1. His rendezvous with ZZ at Port Dickson did happen,
      2. His photo with Altantuya is real,
      3. He did lie while making a sumpah in full view for all to see.

      Thus, the issue remains:-

      1. Is Najib a normal human-being for wanting illicit sex with another woman.., while Anwar is an abnormal human-being for being a bi-sexual creature..?
      2. Is Najib less immoral for being heterosexual.., while Anwar is far more immoral for being a bi-sexual..?
      3. Is Najib a greater liar than Anwar by swearing in the mainstream-medias that he had no relationship with Altantuya.., while Anwar have only take an oath in closed hearings in the court-of-law that he did not perform sodomy with Azizan nor with Shaiful Bukhari.., and to deny those allegations made against him.

      In this regard, Najib is a normal man with natural sexual urges for the opposite sex, while Anwar is an abnormal human being with sexual urges that even the animal kingdom would refrain from. And that Najib is far less immoral for wanting sex with other woman while Anwar is far more hideous for also wanting unnatural sex with the same sexual gender.

      If both had lied, nonetheless Najib portrays himself as a gentleman and is more bold than Anwar to swear in the mainstream-medias towards the accusations hurled against him.., while Anwar portrays himself as being cowardly and deceptive and does not even have the courage to swear amongst his closest of aides in a public toilet.

      With all the assumptions as considered earlier on this issue.., Najib (despite being immoral and a liar) would conclusively have far greater morality than Anwar.., whilst at the same time Najib would psychologically portray to the general public that he exudes a far greater character in astute in terms of courage as well as being a gentleman between the two them.

      However by putting away all the earlier assumptions.., nonetheless time have progressively indicated and is by now very telling that Anwar is nothing but a desperado, who is struggling frantically by whatever means possible to grapple for political power so that he can exercise such authority to conceal and purge his terrible misdeeds.

      It is thus truly myopic for the supporters of Anwar Ibrahim in failing to see what is to befall him.

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  18. What PAS did at their 2012 Muktamar last weekend must have confused Anwar’s supporters some more. Even pro-Pakatan blogs were saying all sorts against PAS. Examples:

    Chinese unease over Hadi as PM: PAS can lose votes & drag PR down
    Malaysia Chronicle – ‎2 hours ago‎
    The just ended PAS annual general conference (Muktamar) has landed Pakatan Rakyat into troubled waters again. What started off on the right footing with Hadi Awang’s presidential address that reflects PAS as a matured partner in solidarity and harmony …

    Divided PAS spells trouble for Pakatan
    Free Malaysia Today – ‎12 hours ago‎
    PAS has been ‘penetrated’ by elements with ‘foreign’ ideologies while its only ‘national’ policy is the implementation of hudud in Malaysia. COMMENT. Is PAS in a riddle? Or has it turned into a “maze-runner”, lost in a battlefield where survival is only for the …

    Hadi Awang’s compelling straddle in PAS divide
    Malaysia Kini – ‎10 hours ago‎
    COMMENT The way PAS president Abdul Hadi Awang has straddled the obvious divide in his party between those who are untroubled about their participation in Pakatan Rakyat and those who are uncomfortable with it compels attention. It’s a divide that has …

    Pakatan, don’t put the cart before the horse
    Malaysia Kini – ‎Nov 18, 2012‎
    YOURSAY ‘Before you try to hatch eggs, you must first get the eggs. And then, think deeply on who should be mother hen to sit on the eggs.’ Hadi as PM? No problem, says Anwar your say Giudice: Pakatan Rakyat is falling into a trap by putting the cart before …

    WHY SO SCARED: Jittery MCA says ‘no’ to Hadi as PM
    Malaysia Chronicle – ‎11 hours ago‎
    As if convinced that Barisan Nasional’s defeat at the coming general election was imminent, MCA today stated its strong objection to any plan to appoint PAS president Tuan Guru Abdul Hadi Awang as prime minister. And among the reasons cited by the …

    Hudud-leaning Hadi won’t do in Sabah
    Free Malaysia Today – ‎12 hours ago‎
    Abdul Hadi Awang’s ‘willingness’ to be the prime minister has rekindled a previous controversial call he made for a ‘unity government’ with Umno. KOTA KINABALU: Late last year there were speculations filtering out of Umno corridors in Kuala Lumpur that …

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    • How can they not be confused? They mostly have no principles in the first place. So why should they care friend or foe. Anybody even so-called friends saying or doing anything not in line with what they want, they simply wallop.

      The Erdogan group in PAS has been said to be Anwar’s supporters. Led by Anwar-leaning Khalid Samad. They are said to have been controlling the party’s official organ, Harakah. And Harakah tried to say that Hadi did not say he wanted to be PM. How can it be so when Anwar acknowledged it and said to PAS “can discuss”. What to discuss? He promises not to sodomize and PAS allow him be PM?

      After the Muktamar, looks like PAS members not supporting Anwar over Hadi as PM candidate. But even PKR members and supporters may be confused over PAS doings, what pro-Pakatan blogs say, and Anwar’s reaction.

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  19. Brader is passe.

    Let us forget about him.

    Let us all hail Ah Jib Gor.

    I hope with all the big money he has been giving to the Chinese vernacular schools, those kiasus better bring him the vote.

    SakAK47 doesn’t hold back the punches.
    “If we read our constitution, vernacular education should have been replaced completely by national school education. Having allowed, the government can’t undo. There is no way in the world can we expect Najib to have the gumption and the courage to enforce the constitutional provision that there should only be one type of school. National school and not national type school.” – http://sakmongkol.blogspot.com/2012/11/55-years-after.html

    Sad but true.

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    • Arif Sabri now already not towing DAP line? Good for him to say, “there should only be one type of school. National school and not national type school.” He’s still DAP member, isn’t he?

      Sori not interested in going into his blog since a long time ago.

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      • Very unseemly for him to say in that article – “Umno has ruined the nation for 55 years” when he was part of that party once upon a time, even made representative by the rakyat in a state assembly. In fact, he sulked and became bitter when he wasn’t chosen as a candidate for his 2nd term. People with no principles and without honour should remain insignificant. Thank you.

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    • It is very hypocritical of him to lambast Najib over the multi type of schools here in Malaysia when his own party, the DAP promotes and fight along Dong Zong for chinese vernacular schools.

      Thank you.

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    • No. Food they can go to kedai mamak or tapau to eat alone in the kitchen. Got to eat alone coz often given the silent treatment by the spouse. Sad.

      So long as they can sleep with their cronies’ wives and and jambu male friends! Careful when associating with these people!

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  20. “What he does privately is none of my business”. Some even say, “It’s between him and God”. Not true. It’s between him and God, and the laws of this country.

    And between him and the affected others, and the CCTV cameras, too. That’s why he got Sodomy I and Sodomy II. Years in Sg Buluh prison on Sodomy I. Maybe some more as a result of the appeal on Sodomy II.

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    • Didn’t some one say if gay marriages are allowed, the world population will dwindle – Dr M? I agree.

      More and more states in US allowing gay marriages, US population will not dwindle because Latinos etc will keep coming in. Chinese from China, too. It will help China’s over-population problem. Many now can afford to go to US and are doing so.

      But not Malaysia, even if Anwar gets to Putrajaya. In fact maybe because of his sexual preference, he’ll not get to Putrajaya.

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  21. Dear JMD,

    I voted “I am smart and I still like him.” I totally agree with you on all the points you raised, and in fact I believe all the allegations against Anwar to be 100% true. Saiful, Dato T, Azizan, Shamsidar – the whole lot. UMNO and BN have certainly won the battle in convincing me that the man in the video was Anwar Ibrahim, BUT, they have lost the war.

    Let me explain.

    Right now, whenever Anwar goes, he attracts a sizable audience. In fact he shows the pictures of his other ceramahs from the remotest parts in Sabah as proof that he is making deep inroads in UMNO’s fixed deposit.

    So how can we reconcile the glaring evidence against Anwar Ibrahim’s “alleged” sexual misdeeds against the overwhelming “wind of suppport” that is propelling him towards accomplishing the greatest comeback victory in the history of modern day politics?

    The answer is simple – MARKETING!

    You see any salesman will tell you that sometimes even if you present all the evidence that your rivals product is crap, people will still buy the rivals product. People mentally refuse to accept you enforcing your point of view on them and then revolt by siding more with your rival and actually begin to resent you for keeping on droning the message over and over and over again.

    That was the Achilles heel when UMNO attacked Anwar. Because people did not see it as lets say a victim like Saiful seeking justice against Anwar but really UMNO using a person of questionable morals like Saiful to attack Anwar. And the mainstream media made it obvious that all the allegations made against Anwar was not because Anwar was a private citizen but because he was the leader of the Opposition. So the allegations move away from being questions of his personal morals but political attacks.

    However, as the outcome of any political attack is to reduce the support towards the target, its final effectiveness is not determined by Najib, or Farid or yourself but the perceptions of the millions of inconspicuous folk from who drive motorcycles and beat up Protons and have to struggle to make ends meet..

    And they reject the argument of UMNO and BN. They reject the mattress. They reject Saiful. They reject the videos. They even reject Dr Mahathir. They have decided that enough is enough and they want a change, they want ANWAR IBRAHIM!

    And so, I decide to support Anwar Ibrahim , not because he is a better man, and in-spite of the fact that as you correctly point out – that he is far from truthful (which all politicians are esp. Dr M), but rather because he is simply going to win and we support the chair of the PM, never the person who occupies. (Quoted from a Melakan power broker)

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    • Part 2.
      I recently did a tour of the east coast of Pahang and Johor. PAS flags are proudly flying on the main roads and UMNO (Baru) flags are conspicuously absent. UMNO (Baru)’s ground does not have the stomach to fight Anwar anymore, they themselves are fed up with this constant message. Imagine how disgusting it is for UMNO (Baru) machinery to keep on bringing up all these sexual issues.

      Why not focus on something substantive? Something you can talk on the dinner table without having to look stupid

      Aha, but please don’t. Continue to whack Anwar on the sodomy allegations and all these other silly issues. And prepare for the demise of UMNO (Baru)

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      • I believe you are still new in politics or just become aware of politics. Maybe only since 2004?

        PAS’ flags have been flying high in parts of Johor, Melaka, Pahang and everywhere else since decades ago. It doesn’t mean anything. Umno have never been the type to fly their flags on main roads etc. That will only happen during election campaigns.

        But seriously, if Anwar wins, I wish you all the best. Maybe you can become one of his staff.

        Thank you.

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      • Poor Padedoh

        Supporting anwar in spite of all the TRUTH about his bankrupt morals is like the daughter who eloped with her lover just because her parents rejected him for being a gang leader.

        Later that very same daughter was forced into prostitution by this very same gangster in order to support both of them.

        No amount of tears can UNDO her terrible fate.

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      • PADEDOH,

        Orang yang memanggil dirinya sendiri Encik ni memang lah lain pandangannya. Pandang dari jumlah bendera saja, susah lah, kawan. Saya boleh sebut beratus tempat yang saya lihat bendera UMNO/BN berkibar jauh berlebihan bendera PKR, PAS atau DAP, tapi saya biarkan PRU13 menentukan rakyat mahukan yang mana.

        Now, who says “UMNO (Baru)’s ground does not have the stomach to fight Anwar anymore”? Only you saying it doesn’t count la, Mister, Sure they are NOT fed up with this Anwar & sex “constant message”. No, it’s not disgusting because they are true and factual and the rakyat needs to be reminded what kind of a bloke Anwar is.

        I tell you, it is not even “UMNO (Baru) machinery” that “keeps on bringing up all these sexual issues.” I’m not even an UMNO or any party member. But I’ll bring it up till kingdom come so long as he wants to be a leader. You make him retire from politics and I promise to bring it up no more. Deal?

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    • Dear Padedoh,

      Thank you for the comment. Since you believe Anwar did all those things and still support him, then this article is really meant for you.

      Like what was written in the article – championing Anwar shows a lot about your own ethics.

      Re-read the article again please.

      Thank you.

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    • MR PADEDOH,

      I disagree with you right from the start. You have not provided proofs that “whenever Anwar goes, he attracts a sizable audience.” I have read the contrary on many instances. Even when he went by the RM1 million bus, people became more jijik of him, saying what is he trying to show, private aircraft to Sabah, aircond special bus to kampungs in the Peninsular.

      Even in the kampungs, many know he took money from many sources, including Neocons, Jews and Zionists in US. I say, even in the kampungs now they have Internet access, dude.

      Boy oh boy, pictures can be doctored. Remember the DAP “Sir Wong” bloke in Sabah who doctored a photograph showing him being knighted by the Queen? Even camera angles alone can make deceitful appearances. Seen the ones where they claim thousands of attendances when other angles showed only a few hundred?

      Yes, the rakyat get hoodwinked, but remember that more and more have realized his tongue-twisting, lying and deceiving statements.

      Who the hell says “the overwhelming “wind of suppport” that is propelling him towards accomplishing the greatest comeback victory in the history of modern day politics”? You? Naaah. Nonsense. Even PAS cannot accept him. They now want their own PM candidate!

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    • Your “salesman” thingy –

      You are insulting the intelligence of Malaysian voters saying “sometimes even if you present all the evidence that your rivals product is crap, people will still buy the rivals product.” Not even “sometimes” – they simply don’t buy crap, Mista. Granted in places like Kelantan, they continued voting PAS despite the shit Nik Aziz has been saying and doing. But not so sure at PRU13.

      Ever heard of the communist dictum? Never mind what they say about you, so long as they say something about you, some will believe you? Well, I have news for you, comrade – that time has long gone. This is the 21st Century, for goodness sake. Even Russia and China have put communism on the back burner, they have been practicing free enterprise and capitalism for decades already and no more flagrantly bohonging their citizens.

      The vast majority of the rakyat, even in Pahang Tenggara and Jengka, and parts of the interior of Sabah and Sarawak have Internet, and at least the TV, astro 24 hours, beb. They know, are knowledgeable. The PAS fella controlling Koperasi FELDA tried to sabotage the FGVH listing but the vast majority of FELDA settlers and their families remain thankful for what Tun A Razak, and now his son, have been doing to uplift the living standards of the have-nots in the country. And they have enjoyed the benefits from the FGVH listing.

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    • Padedoh,

      “the Achilles heel when UMNO attacked Anwar”? Anwar cannot be attacked? What utter rubbish.

      What are you talking, man, “UMNO using a person of questionable morals like Saiful to attack Anwar”? The case is under Appeal, man, people suspecting the previous DPP was subverted in some way, not presenting his case properly, because not long after losing the case, he retired and then appeared as amember of Anwar’s defence team on another case. Are you not referring to him/ Anwar when talking about “a person of questionable morals”?

      Don’t forget – the Sodomy II Appeal Court Judges had it recorded that Anwar did sodomize. Say whatever you like, even the “the millions of inconspicuous folk .. who drive motorcycles and beat up Protons and have to struggle to make ends meet” also know Anwar did sodomize. And when waiting for traffic lights to change, during coffee breaks and the like, many think of and do express their disgust with the private jet and special aircond bus man “main belakang orang tapi mahu jadi PM”. Cheh, they’d say.

      Yes, it has been often said that politics is the voters’ perception. But that perception has been created by the effectiveness of BN policies these past 55 years of BN rule, the country will not be what it is today if not for BN. Say what you like about Petronas Twin Towers or Proton or the highways, long bridges, the Stock Market, etc, but the fact remains that the voters have seen the last 55 years the BN’s efforts.

      Pakatan Rakyat parties unexpectedly won additional seats at PRU12 because many voters were fed up of “flip flopping, auto-piloting and sleepy” Tun Dol and voted the Opposition, or spoiled their votes, or didn’t go to vote. But Tun Dol is no more, has not been active in UMNO for so long and DS Najib has been working hard, well appreciated by the voters. You didn’t realize those? Pity.

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  22. His sexual preference may not be important to his supporters, but it’s damn important to the rakyat at large, I tell you. Man, this is a 60% Muslim majority country, and Islam does not allow sodomy.

    Goodness, even non-Muslims, too. The Catholics clearly don’t allow that. Only the gay pastor who went to marry his New York boyfriend – his church may allow, even encourage sodomy. But his congregation is only a small one, isn’t it?

    Because a large majority of the population don’t like sodomy, that’s why the laws of the country don’t allow that. Anwar kena already in Sodomy I case, now his Sodomy II case is being appealed. I think he will kena again and I hope it’s before GE13.

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    • You should say why you are free (whether because got money from US etc) and whether you are pro-PR or pro-BN.

      The Malaysiakini I know about is so nasty and has such a bad name that I won’t touch it even with a 40 ft pole.

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  23. “These sycophants .. (say) It’s his politics, performance and policies that they would keep an eye on.”

    But his politics, performance and policies are lousy, too. Examples:

    1. Bad mouthed the country when abroad, arranged for funds from US Jewish NGOs be sent to his affiliates in this country, encouraged if not masterminded the public to go on the streets on illegal street demos since before Bersih, publicly spoke for having relations with Israel and for defending the security of Israel, regardless of his coalition member party PAS not wanting anything to do with Israel – what kind of politics are those?

    2. In charge of the economy of Selangor State as Economics Adviser, but Talamgate occurred, hundreds of million Ringgit of the rakyat’s money squandered, no significant economic development in Selangor, even the water problem is not solved, no concrete action on long-term provision of adequate water supply for industries and domestic consumption in the state of Selangor – what kind of performance are those?

    3. Was Minister of Finance for several years, but nearly brought the economy of the country in shambles during the Asian Financial Crisis, his Zionist contact George Soros did the foreign exchange of this country topsy turvy to get huge profits from his massive speculative activities, wanted to adopt the International Monetary Fund and World Bank kind of measures that would have made Malaysia enslaved to them paying huge amounts of interest over a long period of time – what kind of policies are those?

    Those sycophants should change their glasses to be able to “keep an eye” properly, Sir.

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  24. I think Anwar may have gone overboard in several instances because of his obsession with wanting to be PM. Right from the time when he tried to unseat Tun Dr Mahathir. An obsessed man is a lost-perspective and a poor leadership quality man.

    In that obsession, he lost track of decency, moral values, even loyalty and love for country. His motivation became nothing else but become PM, no matter what.

    No man who, when abroad, accuses his own country undemocratic, yet his own party is undemocratic, is worth supporting and his party not worth given votes to enable him become PM. What he says and did that show his lack of decency and moral values have, as they say, become common knowledge.

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  25. JMD,
    U want to talik about morality. In the first place Umno leaders who sit in positions of authority steal in the millions. As written by Barry Wain Mahathir and his cronies stole 100 billion of the country’s wealth. He was not sued by Mahathir–why–simply b’cos it was the truth. Taib Mahmud has stolen billions of the Sarawak timber wealth. U say Anwar has a moral problem–what problem. A compliant court with the corrupted drunkard judge Augustine Paul,whose favourite word was irrelevant, irrelevant convicted Anwar based on trumped up charges. The ex IGP Musa said the sodomy victim did not have to go for a medical check up but he conducted the test himself and was convinced that he was sodomised. The 2nd sodomy was thrown out. In the case of the video, why didnt the govt charge Anwar in court.

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    • Didn’t see this comment earlier –

      TIU NAM SENG = TIU NIA SENG?

      What proof has Barry Wain got, Mister? You simply ape and parrot what he said? Not sued by Mahathir was proof it was the truth? Which philosopher did you learn that logic from? Lim Kitty Siangi filosofree?

      It’s the stupid Opposition blokes like you who always make wild, unsubstantiated allegations. But when we say Anwar has a moral problem – we say even just his Sodomy cases are already a moral problem. That he did sodomize was recorded by Sodomy I Appeal Court Judges, and the Sodomy II case is under appeal, didn’t you read those? We can put out a long list of his moral problem cases, do you know that?

      Do you understand what moral is? Go check the dictionary, you son of a so and so. Note, it’s early in the morning and I’m avoiding harsher words on you.

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      • Mr Zen,
        You are asking what proof have Barry Wain. He has written a book Mahathir The Malaysian Maverick. He has accused him of squandering rm100 billion of the rakyats money. The norm is it is up to the person who is defamed to file a defamation suit to clear his name. Anwar was accused of being a sodomite by Khairy in a political ceramah and was sued by Anwar. Utusan Melayu was also sued for defamation and was forced to pay compensation to YAB Lim Guan Eng. Dei idiot these things are not learnt from a philosoper, they are the norms in society. If you are accused of being involved in a murder–will you keep quite and let the public call you a murderer. You said “It’s the stupid Opposition blokes like you who always make wild, unsubstantiated allegations”. But in actual fact, stupid idiots like you refuse to accept reality. I am also refraining from using more harsher words and examples. You think you are more legally literate than the 90% lawyers in the country who were appalled that the Malaysian courts can stoop so low. You accuse Anwar of having moral problems. Sodomy 1 and 2 were trumped up charges by Mahathai and Najib. Legally speaking, these charges should have been thrown out of the courts. But the courts manned by a majority of corrupted to the core judges as exposed in the Lingam video scandal made a mockery of the trial. The ex IGP Musa said in court that the victim Azizan was not taken for a medical examination but he examined the asshole of Azizan and concluded that he was sodomised. And the pariah, drunkard and corrupted to the core judge Augustine Paul accepted his testimony. Dei idiot the norm is for rape and sodomy victims to be examined by doctors—this is the standard rule. But the biggest irony was when Najib’s name was mentioned by one of the witness in sodomy 2, the defence lawyer jumped up and protested—this must be a first in the world. One of the country’s foremost criminal lawyers YB Gobind Singh Deo has asked these questions:-
        1)Why was Altantuya murdered
        2) What was the motif
        3) The 2 convicted heartless murderers have not met her before.
        4)Since they were Najibs ADC(special polis force) they were trained to take orders
        Only from their superiors.
        5) Who was the superior who ordered the demolition of Altantuya
        All these question were not answered by the compliant courts.
        Now Deepak Kishen, a former buddy of Rosmah exposed damning details of the involvement of Najib’s family in the Altantuya murder. But surprisingly till today not a single word of denial has come out from Najib’s family—dead silent.
        The Main Stream Medias not even one reported about Deepak’s expose. If such an accusation was thrown at Anwar, for weeks the MSMs and TV Tigasuku will be playing the news. And of course the polis pariah dogs would have gone after him.

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        • That the bloke wrote a book is proof? Do you know what proof means?

          “The norm is it is up to the person who is defamed to file a defamation suit to clear his name.” Going by that argument, DS Najib has to take the scores of his accusers to court? Kamon la, mister.

          “the 90% lawyers in the country who were appalled that the Malaysian courts”. Who says it’s 90%? Do you know what many people think of even the Bar Council? They don’t even allow a member offering his service as observer during the Council election vote counting – read one article about it in this blog.

          So, what the “majority of lawyers” say are correct? Not what the courts say? That they can be argued to the highest court of the land? That it might take years to resolve?

          And who says Gobind Singh Deo is “One of the country’s foremost criminal lawyers”? That’s your opinion, isn’t it? And I’m entitled to mine, ain’t I?

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  26. Fakta kamu langsung takda logic. Bar Council dan Lawyers for liberty semuanya anti kerajaan—semua tak setuju dengan procedure mahkamah. Bukan kah peguam2 semua dibawah naungan Bar Council. Yang jadi pembodek kerajaan ialah seperti Shafee Abdullah yang jadi penasihat kepada Najib dalam kes Altantuya. Dokumen penting tak bagi ke DSAI. Integriti mahkamah tak payah lah bicara—skandal video Lingam telah bongkar kedibiliti kebanyakan hakim2. Ketua Hakim boleh minta beli handfon untuk dia dari kroni Mahathai. Ya aku tahu kebanyakan India dan Cina belajar di kolej swasta dan lulus LLB—Universiti of London—tahap universiti ini berkali kali lebih tinggi banding dengan universiti2 tempatan. Ya jangan cakap pasal CLP—kerajaan letak quata untuk lulus—bukan mereka bodoh—tetapi kerajaan sengaja bagi mereka gagal. Awak jangan buat bodoh—siapa kah yang selalu mewakili kes2 di mahkamah—bukan kah semuanya orang India dan Cina. Berapa kerat orang Melayu yang terlibat—Shafee itu bukan melayu—mualaf India .

    Mahkamah Lingam apa pun boleh berlaku—semua corrupted to the core. Semasa sodomi 1, bekas IGP Musa Hassan kata dia tahu macam mana keadaan jubur yang telah di liwat. Ini dia jawab bila peguambela tanya kenapa Azizan tidak di check doctor. Tapi kali ini konspirator sudah pandai, paksa pegawai kerajaan mereka DNA dalam jubor Sialfool. Apa nak cabar kredibiliti dalam mahkamah—bila satu dunia tahu hakim hakim di Malaysia kebanyakan mereka adalah korup—seperti telah bongkar dalam skandal video Lingam. Permintaan polis—mereka bukan kah anjing kerajaan—sanggup buat apa pun bila dah bagi tulang untuk kunyah.
    Jadi kamu nak kata penyokong2 PAS dan PKR adalah orang bodoh. Bukan kah terbukti baru baru ini di PRN Sarawak , yang undi BN ialah orang utan, orang ulu dan orang pendalaman—orang 2 yang paling bodoh. Sebaliknya orang Pas dan PKR tahu pemimpin Umno/BN adalah perompak duit rakyat—Taib Mahmud adalah contoh yang paling jelas.
    Macam mana doctor swasta ini yang merupakan doctor Myanmar nak cerita—awal awal anjing2 polis telah tahan dia dan ugut dia. Mahkamah korup mana boleh defend dia.
    Aku tak faham logic u orang—mualaf Eskay yang dilahir oleh seorang pelacur Siam dengan kacukan India bersumpah di masjid tapi pegang Al-quran terbalik. Yang 2 anak haram yang iring dia ke masjid siap dengan ves bullet proof—tidak pula sumpah—kata mualaf itu mewakili mereka—apa punya logic. Jangan simpan otak dekat buntut dan omong yang bukan2.
    Logik u tentang BOS langsung tak masuk akal. Kalau ikut logic awak yang paling bodoh, tak tahu lah berapa perempuan yang kerja dibawah bos lelaki telah kena kongke—sebab mereka dipujuk rayu dan keran respek bos dia, kasi kongke sama dia. Awak lah yang paling bodoh dengan stupid reasoning of yours.
    Mana ada cari dalam punya—Munawar dan Sukma telah ditangkap oleh polis anjing dan seksa kaw kaw untuk mengaku mereka telah diliwat oleh DSAI. Azizan dan Sialfool telah dibeli untuk mereka cerita.

    Siapa yang IQ rendah—bukan kah terbukti yang sokong Umno/BN ialah yang paling teruk IQ mereka termasuk kamu. PRN Sarawak adalah contoh yang terbaik

    “In 1998-1999 trials, Anwar experienced the phenomenon of fabrication of DNA evidence. We had SAC Rodwan illegally removing DNA samples from forensic custody. In cross-examination of the prosecution’s witnesses it was exposed that DNA taken from blood samples was planted on the infamous mattress,” said Sivarasa.
    “When confronted with this fact the prosecution amended its charge and persuaded the judge, Augustine Paul, to expunge the entire DNA evidence from the record, preventing Anwar’s lawyers from responding.”

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  27. “Fakta takda logic”? Dari kata kata pertama kamu saja dah tahu kamu tak logic. “Fakta” tu bukan logik, Mamat. “Hujah” (arguments) yang logik ke tak logik. Ada ngarti? Ko sekolah di mana dulu?

    Ko kata “Bar Council .. semuanya anti kerajaan .. tak setuju dengan procedure mahkamah”. Aku kata ko bodoh, ko nak marah, Tapi kalo ko dah bodoh, nak buat camna? Ko tak tahu ke ada 13,000 ahli Bar Council. Ko gila ke kata “semua nya anti-Kerajaan”?

    “Semua nya tak setuju dengan procedure mahkamah”? Procedure Mahkamah hape yang ko cakap? Kan procedure Mahkamah dah terbina sejak beratus tahun dahulu? Malaysia ikut sistem Bretes. Ko kata procedure Mahkamah Bretes pun tak betul? Kan gila juga ko cakap mcm tu.

    Dah lah, buang masa aku saja nak jawab bodoh macam kau ni. Aku ingat tadi nak jawab panjang lebar. Ko cakap banyak sangat mengarut, macam budak kecik pada masa masanya, malas aku nak jawab ko. Bila aku takda kerja lain yang mustahak, atau nak melepaskan geram aku kapada si buta fakta mcm ko, mungkin nanti aku tulis lagi.

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  28. He is a wolf in sheep’s skin. Great manupulater. He talk differently 2 diffirent crowds. He is power crazy, fault finder n a ungrateful bastard. God is watching…

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    • yes. you are right.anwar sesumpah tu. kaki bontot dari mckk lagi.oraNG BANGANG JE TAK PERCAYA DIA TAK BUAT. KENA BUAT HOMEWORK UNTUK FAHAM TIPU MUSLIHAT ANWAR. DAPIG GUNA DIA UTK CAPAI MAKSUD

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  29. ALTANTUYA TU ADALAH EJEN CIA DAN ANWAR TU EJEN YAHUDI.TAK MAHU PERCAYA SUDAH .ANA ADA MAKLUMAT.MEMANG PATUT PUN MAHATHIR SACK DIA. HOI DAP BANGANG DAN PAS BANGANG

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