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An honest opinion on YB Khairy’s speech

In his closing speech just now YB Khairy Jamaluddin called for his Pemuda members to “cakap yang benar biarpun pahit”.

With that in mind, I would like to take this opportunity to review his policy address which he made this morning. It won’t be a pleasant read for some people but since we are in the spirit of telling the truth and in the spirit of improving ourselves for the better, we shall dissect and make some sense to what he was trying to say.

First off, his speech was entitled “MAQASID DAN MANHAJ PERJUANGAN”.

Why do we have to Arabicize Malay words?

Maqasid means ‘matlamat’ while Manhaj means ‘pendekatan’. Please don’t do an Anwar Ibrahim and try to substitute proper Malay words with Arabic words. It makes you sound phony and trying too hard; just like Anwar Ibrahim.

Somebody told me that instead of dismissing his speech outright, I must give credit to where it’s due. That is fair enough. In all 73 paragraphs of his speech, not all needs to be criticised. Some have good arguments and there are a few that I can relate to. But there are a few paragraphs that I do not agree with and this is where I vent my frustrations towards this Ketua Pemuda of United Malay National Organisation.

Some of these paragraphs are:

As UMNO Youth Leader, I meet many young Malays from all levels of society. When I speak of the NEP and the Malay struggle, they retort: “Pardon me, but what have I ever received from the NEP?” Their incomes are below the poverty line, many of them have migrated to cities where the cost of living rises faster than what they earn. These are Malays, Bumiputeras, but they have never enjoyed the fruits of the NEP. Their perception is that the NEP only enriches a few elite Bumiputeras with strong political links. For these youths, the 30 percent equity target does not mean anything because most of them never have and never will be able to purchase shares. This is yet another example of leakages where the NEP, which was rooted on the notion of prosperity for all, ended up being seen as an elitist policy resulting in many Malays sidelined and not looked after.

I find this very alarming coming from the Ketua Pemuda himself. Is he saying that his understanding of the NEP is limited to the number of shares and equity holding of the Malays? How sad that he cannot rebuke those young Malays that he met using arguments that the NEP had given them access to a lot of opportunities that did not exist before NEP was created?

All the many universities that were built, all the funds that were set up to  pull the Malays out from hardcore poverty, all the many schools that was built when not many were built before 1970; all these were part of the NEP that these young Malays are given privilege to enjoy. All these are direct benefits that come from the NEP. These are only a few examples that Khairy could give to them. He could even say that business opportunities are given to them if they work hard. In the days before the NEP an ordinary Malay could not have access to these opportunities even if they had worked hard because no opportunities were given to them. Access was limited.

If Pemuda Umno cannot rebut a simple retort from the simple young Malays he met all these while, then he therefore does not know what NEP is and certainly do not know the history of Umno’s struggle. Yet, he made a highly rhetorical statement in one of his paragraphs:

What is required today is a politics based on thoughts and ideas. The current political sphere is no longer entirely about the struggle for power, but a competiton of minds, a battle of ideas. Like it or not, those who challenge our political ideology must be defeated through the sharpness of our intellect and the superiority of our arguments, not by relying on executive power.

What sharpness of intellect can we really see here when he could not even properly explain to the young people the successes and the benefits NEP had brought to the Malays? Instead, he had used the raw, unprocessed thinking of those young ones (who really should have been educated further by Umno Youth) as the justification to condemn the NEP further.

I am further inclined to believe that Umno Youth is not focusing on the ‘software’ of the youth generation. Instead, they are focusing on the hard figures. Yes, you have gained new members. Yes you got new voters. But what kind of members and new voters do you have? Ones that do not know why, how and what the objectives of Umno are?

Does all the Umno youth members know the history of its ‘matlamat’ and ‘pendekatan’? Even the Ketua Pemuda doesn’t seem to know it. If not, he could have easily swayed the youth not to be too critical of the NEP. You do not have to offer them shares or business contracts  just to make them love the NEP mind you.

There is a paragraph that I do not understand due to the underlying contradiction:

The new manhaj must be guided by merit and needs. Merit stresses on staying power and competitiveness. Merit means the Malay who has the ability, talent and high potential will be discovered, assisted along the way and given ample room to succeed. Merit also demands a level playing field so that the most innovative of farmers, the most diligent of traders, the most knowledgeable of professors and the most competent of contractors are provided with all the encouragement necessary without barriers in the form of political interests or the lack political connections. God-willing, with the inculcation of these new values and culture in the manhaj of empowerment for our people, the Malays will be better equipped to compete on the world stage, without the need for ‘crutches’ anymore.

So, a Malay who has the ability and talent will be discovered and helped and encouraged along the way to be successful. That is what he call ‘merit based system’. Isn’t all these ‘help’ and ‘encouragement’ can be termed as ‘crutches’?

Or in other words, one of the many policies in the affirmative actions of the NEP?

I am confused with Khairy’s definition of meritocracy. It contradicts itself. It is certainly not the same with the meritocracy concept which Lim Kit Siang proposes.

Plus, Khairy should be the last person to talk about meritocracy because all the years he has been in politics, he gained prominence through sheer nepotism. If he had not married into Tun Abdullah Badawi’s family, where do you think he could be now? Certainly not as Ketua Pemuda because he could have never won the Deputy Umno Youth Chief unchallenged in 2004. He won it because he was the infamous son in law of the current Umno President at that time.

He then spoke at length on the Malay unity. When the Deputy President last night touched on the importance of Malay unity, Khairy seemed to think that there is nothing we can do about in unifying the Malays for the sake of greater good. He even resigned to state that:

“saya juga sedar bahawa telah terpahat dalam sejarah yang Melayu itu jarang sekali bersatu. Dalam lipatan sejarah moden, kecuali dalam penentangan terhadap Malayan Union dan perjuangan kemerdekaan, orang Melayu acap berpecah terutama dalam pemahaman dan ideologi politik.”

Although he did not reject the possibility of Malay unity, he stated that:

We must accept the reality that today the Malay vote is split. There is no Malay party – be it UMNO or PAS – that can secure a hundred percent of Malay votes. In many areas, the Malay political split is such that 50 percent are on one side and 50 percent on the other. This means that any side wanting to win, must win with the support of all Malaysians, regardless of race and religion. If we hope to rely on the Malay vote alone, we should be mindful that there are only 73 Parliamentary seats with a dominant Malay majority of 70 percent and above. Such is the reality.

We must learn from the results of the last General Elections where we almost relinquished power due to the loss of support from non-Malays. If we still subscribe to the illusion that we can win without their support, then 50 seats currently held by BN are in grave danger. If there is no concerted effort to practise an inclusive and moderate leadership, UMNO’s Malay leadership will disappear come the next election.

Most assuredly the main responsibility of winning over support from non-Malays lies on the shoulders of certain component parties. Whatever weaknesses they have must be overcome immediately and the responsibilities entrusted upon them must be vigorously carried out. But in the current state of politics – moreoever with the concept of 1Malaysia being our collective compass – Malaysians want to see a BN that can practise the values of camaraderie, justice and fairness.

Those are the words that kept niggling in my conscience. I stated in my previous article that Umno must understand their role in Barisan Nasional. Umno must be at the forefront of the Malay struggle. Obviously when Umno is fighting for Malay empowerment and rights, it doesn’t contradict the Constitution. So there is nothing to be afraid of.

Barisan Nasional is the multiracial party that governs the government.

Umno, MCA, MIC and a dozen of other component parties must perform their roles for each of their community or groups of the same political idealogy.

If MCA and MIC have not been inclusive in their own party conventions, and have not shown us the values of camaraderie, justice and fairness, why should Umno subrogate the roles of those two parties in wooing their voters?

Isn’t it easier to be find ways to unify the Malays in Umno and Pas rather than Umno putting on multiple caps just to please others?

Unification of the Malays will make make the Malays even stronger. Is this not the ‘matlamat’ of Umno Youth?

I have said many times, the easiest way for the component parties to win any voters is to stick to the Constitution. All BN parties must ‘perjuangkan Perlembagaan Malaysia’. The spirit of the Constitution must be upheld. No parties will feel left out if everyone of them stick to what our founding fathers had laid out for us. We are all guided by it.

And for everything that is holy in the universe, Barisan Nasional lost support in General Elections 2008 was not solely because Umno lost support of the non-malays. People of all races did not vote Barisan Nasional because the leadership at that time was corrupt, arrogant, too flamboyant and did not manage the economy well. If you identified wrongly the causes of the losses, you will administer the wrong prescriptions to the problem. Hence, the wrong diagnosis and prognosis of the Ketua Pemuda in the paragraphs mentioned above.

Therefore, I am disappointed with the way Pemuda Umno is going.

I was further left disappointed when he said this:

When we fail to understand and appreciate the feelings of other races, the barriers that separate us become higher and thicker. Young Malaysians live within the confines of their own ethnic communities. The young Malay who attends religious school, a Middle Eastern university and watches Malay programs on Astro Ria is alien to the young Chinese attending a vernacular school, a Taiwanese university and entertained by Wah Lai Toi. Each perpetuates mutual prejudices because of these barriers that exist.

Stopping short of calling for a single stream education for Malaysia, he recognised the barriers but dared not say any viable solution for these problems. Instead he added on:

The 1Malaysia concept needs to be held as a shared aspiration amongst all races. Community life in a multi-ethnic country certainly demands much patience and courtesy from everyone. We should not hastily pointing fingers at each other in the face of any issue, big or small. We need to understand the feelings of other people if we want them to understand ours. We all need to imagine ourselves in each other’s shoes, assume we swap places, switch fortunes, only then can we appreciate the universal truth that our shared humanity unites us more than it divides. Malaysians need to give and take between one another and this by no means entails one side only taking and the other only giving. Let the fate and future of this country, whether we fail or succeed, be determined together by us all.

Please tell us how all those above can be achieved after the paragraph before it had exposed the huge problem of our society? How can Malaysians understand the feelings of one another if they live in a segregated society? It easy for him to say rhetorical things like this but coming way short on the substance. The solution is staring straight in our face yet the Ketua Pemuda, the one who tried to be inclusive and propagating collective interest of the nation seemed to be too timid to even mention this.

Those above are the things that irritate me the most during his speech this morning. I also do not agree when he said something about the May 13, 1969 incident. But the sharp among us can see the shortcomings of that particular paragraph without me elaborating it further.

Other than the things I mentioned above, the speech was commendable. I apologise if this is a bitter pill to swallow. But I must for the sake of Agama, Bangsa and Negara. Thank you.

103 thoughts on “An honest opinion on YB Khairy’s speech

  1. itulah,bila lauk yang belum cukup masak,buah yang belum ranum,kalau dimakan….camtuhla

    sama gak ngan pemimpin yang belum cukup makan garam,kalau dilantik ditabal juga,samalah…..

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  3. Where are we going ?, will there be any hope ?. Pemuda are supposed to be next generation leaders , if this bunch dont even understant dasar perjuangan Pertubohan Kebangsaan Melayu Bersatu and he failed to understand DEB and what DEB had done though it’s not 100% sucess story ,but failed to reconise the infortance thus clearly shown the quality of leadership in PKMB and it does reflect on the members as well.

    It’s that really ketua pemuda “UMNO” United Malays National Organisation speach, or speach by ketua pemuda’ United Malaysian National Organisation’ ,where in short
    is “UMNO” too.

    Ulam raja didalam kolam,dicholek dengan sambal kichap
    Kalau dah ketuanya tak paham, yang lain macam mana nak cakap

    1sekolah>1bahasa>1Malaysia

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    • It’s a shame and a disgrace that after half a century of independence and being Malaysian for 40 years, we still have the above rhetoric being thrown about.
      Isn’t it long overdue that we forget about race and just live and work together to improve our standards of living?

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      • Yes, it’s a shame. Living in Malaysia for 53 years but still cannot speaks fair Bahasa Malaysia.

        We can achieve greater heights if pendatangs leave Tanah Melayu. Trust me, all the wrong doings is caused by “them”.

        The pendatangs fight for equal rights, but the majorities want the pendatangs to get out !!!!! Dont you guys understand ??? Tak malu lagi kaa???? Get outttttt……!!!!

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        • It looks to me that your perception of things are ‘coloured’ by the lens of hatred. Siapa yang kata kita ni tak fasih bercakap dalam Bahasa Malaysia? This is exactly the sort of things that divide our nation. The term of ‘Pendatang’ really seems to apply only to a select few. What exactly do you mean by ‘Pendatang’? Is it selective only to the Indian’s & Chinese? Take a look at the list of other likely ‘Pendatangs’ below:

          1. Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Tun Hussein – Turkish descent
          2. Datuk Seri Shafie Apdal – Bajau Descent
          3. Malacca MB Datuk Seri Ali Rustam – Malay + Bengali
          4. Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin – Bugis + Javanese
          5. Ex-PM Tun Mahathir Mohammad- Indian + Malay

          You’d probably be surprised that somewhere in your lineage, your descendents were probably of mix parentage of a different ethnic group too. I am of Chinese descent or ‘pendatang’ as you put it. But I don’t feel any affiliation to China because I’ve never been there or ever been raised there. My father is of Chinese descent born in Malaysia. Yet, he served faithfully with the Tentera Laut DiRaja MALAYSIA till he retired at age 55. So, can you still call us ‘Pendatang’?

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          • I’mMalaysian,

            Thats where u r wrong, The person that u have listed below understand the constitution and if u bother to understand the malay definition in consitution u will understand that malay is bound only by religion and for that matter there are malay regardless of blood and skin color. Pendatang is when somebody refuse to be a part of the country. If you prefer to isolate your self in your own race community only that thats what we call pendatangs. I had a lot of friends from others races that chose to study in SK and SMK. Sadly it is so hard to find a chinese friends because they prefer to be with their own race.Once in a while i will get a chinese friend and always they were from normal SK SMK background. Never once i had a chinese friend from SJK. Why?

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    • I really like the statement ‘pls leave if not grateful’. I am not sure if you know why Malay youths are not supporting the establishment. From the little knowledge that I have gained from the HR Ministry, most unemployed graduates are Malays. How did this happen? It is mainly due to the undoing of the NEP and Malay bureaucrats that caused alot of Chinese SMEs to leave this country. Just imagined how many jobs would have been created if all those small factory sheds in Seberang Perai are in still in operation. Sadly, most of them have closed shop and shifted to Vietnam. I, for one, know a few(5) of the operators who have moved to Vietnam. These operators hire more than 120 workers in Vietnam. IF they are in Malaysia, that would mean another 120 jobs. Do you know the arithmetic of employment?

      Teaching the Chinese Malaysian SMEs a lesson in Malay supremacy is easy. But do you Malay aristocrats know the cost?

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      • Dear enoughisenough

        The “cost” – is a lifestyle that is environmentally-friendly, where the pace of life is manageable, where air-pollution is minimal, where heart diseases and AIDS are rare, where HIV means “hair is vanishing”.

        Where family members see each other daily, not separated by jobs far away, where having domestic maids is an insult, where daily meals are FRESHLY prepared, not processed with deadly preservatives, salt and saccharin.

        Where the old, the very young and the handicapped are part and parcel of life, NOT a burden as perceived in a “modern progressive” society.

        Where laughter is peppered throughout the day unlike the robots facing their desktops silenced by “important” work.

        I could go on and on but enoughisenough. Like picojayboy says, “please leave” if you can find greener pastures, instead of suffering frustrations in this blessed land.

        P.S. some factories that produce melamine-flavoured infant milk, mercuryfied mushrooms, lead-filled toys, junkified snacks with zero nutrients are DEADLY to all, not just unemployed youths.

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      • Enoughisenough,
        You stated:
        “It is mainly due to the undoing of the NEP and Malay bureaucrats that caused alot of Chinese SMEs to leave this country.”

        Just one simple question .. why do some SMEs advertised their job vacancies with conditions one must be able to speak mandarin or hokkien? Why is it very hard to find requirement of speaking tamil or urdu in job advertisement?

        Care to explain?

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  4. He speaks like a trojan horse sent to UMNO.

    I guess the arabicised words were deliberately used to appeal to the ‘muslim’ psyche, like what must have been done to Nik Aziz and the PAS members. KJ used this “weakness” to purportedly win immediate support. Other attempts include the Chinese quoting verses from the Quran, giving influential speeches in mosques after ‘donating/investing” some amount of ringgit, etc.

    The subtle message is that the nons are the kingmaker, so pamper to their demands for that marginal votes. Otherwise why would PAS be convinced to compromise their original platform.

    The nons openly “support” PAS to tilt the balance against UMNO, by way of praising (sky high) their ‘clean and uncorrupted’ image. And lo and behold, money politics were reportedly being practised in PAS too.

    So all KJ’s mumbo jumbo will split the Malay votes and the winner will be the nons.

    Your point about uniting the Malay/Bumiputeras, being a much easier option, carries credibility. That should have been the most proactive course of action, in the true spirit of UMNO – demi agama, bangsa dan negara.

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    • We all know that in a given situation, you can either see things in one way or the other. In short, do you see a glass as half full or half empty? Who are we to judge anyway? Hence, I humbly offer my 2 cent perspective of issues as I see it. I leave it to the readers to decide which makes more sense.

      1) Chinese quoting verses from the Quran – Isn’t that the essence of what PM Najib’s 1Malaysia is about? Accepting another person’s faith regardless of your own faith. Integrating with the customs and cultures of other communities? By the way, a Chinese can’t be a muslim too? There a millions of Chinese Muslims in China if you didn’t know. So perhaps you meant a Non-muslim quoting a verse from the Quran?

      2) Donating & Investing (as you put it) in a surau- I assume you are referring to the Teoh Nie Ching incident? C’mon, have you looked at her? She is the ultimate sweetness of politicians! Despite all the accusations and misinterpretations hurled at her, she had the down to earth attitude to seek public forgiveness for any wrongdoings she may have not intended (includes seeking an audience with the Sultan to explain things & seek forgiveness) Besides, wasn’t it the surau committee who requested for funds for the upkeep of the surau? And as the Representative for that area, isn’t she duty bound to provide those funds? The way I see it, it seems that she’s investing for the wellbeing of communities. What’s wrong with that?

      3) The ‘non’s are the kingmakers? Are you SERIOUS? You rant about the ‘non’s having the ‘power’ to tilt the balance of Malaysian politics. Influence, yes. Power? Far from it. Do remember that more than 60% of Malaysian population are comprised of Malays / Bumiputera and a substantial amount of those are in fact choosing to stay away from UMNO for their own valid reasons. So, I’d say that the real kingmakers are the majority who comprise the opposition. And it isn’t the non’s.

      4) Demi Agama, Bangsa dan Negara. Okay, I’ve commented on this once before. But, why do most UMNO people end their speeches/comments with the slogan of “Demi Agama, Bangsa & Negara”? I fully understand the need to put religion and our nation as top priority as a Malaysian citizen. But why race? Why only for the Malays? Can we not serve all races at the same time? Can we not look past our skin colours and see each other for the values we hold inside rather than what we appear on the outside?

      These are of course just my 2 cents.

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      • Youremalaysian = Accepting another person’s faith regardless of your own faith. Integrating with the customs and cultures of other communities.

        Ray = Aiyoyo how to integrate customs and cultures when one religion forbids certain practices and the other celebrates it (like eating pork and praying to deities).

        Youremalaysian = She is the ultimate sweetness of politicians! Despite all the accusations and misinterpretations hurled at her

        Ray = ermmm one man’s meat is another man’s poison …

        Youremalaysian = she had the down to earth attitude to seek public forgiveness for any wrongdoings she may have not intended (includes seeking an audience with the Sultan to explain things & seek forgiveness)

        Ray = That was an automatic-damage-control consequence of the unhappiness generated by her OBVIOUS ignorance. Just like Jackie Chan apologising for saying that the chinese needed to be controlled.

        Youremalaysian = Besides, wasn’t it the surau committee who requested for funds for the upkeep of the surau? And as the Representative for that area, isn’t she duty bound to provide those funds? The way I see it, it seems that she’s investing for the wellbeing of communities. What’s wrong with that?

        Ray = Ooohhh … nothing wrong man, except that she took POLITICAL opportunity to garner votes by giving a speech, my dear. I am reminded of Siti Nurhaliza with that DAP t-shirt she had to DISPLAY coz her concert was sponsored NOT by fellow citizens but by a POLITICAL party. After the hoo hah, that sweet and demure icon had to plead withdrawal on MEDICAL grounds – the only clause that could save her from contractual breach.

        Youremalaysian =The ‘non’s are the kingmakers? Are you SERIOUS? You rant about the ‘non’s having the ‘power’ to tilt the balance of Malaysian politics.

        Ray = Correction my dear, ray does not rant, ray states logically and may I add, coolly.

        Youremalaysian =Influence, yes. Power? Far from it. Do remember that more than 60% of Malaysian population are comprised of Malays / Bumiputera and a substantial amount of those are in fact choosing to stay away from UMNO for their own valid reasons. So, I’d say that the real kingmakers are the majority who comprise the opposition. And it isn’t the non’s.

        Ray = Eureka, thank Allah you have seen the light – that the majority rules. But tsk tsk tsk, the opposition is WORKING very hard to split the Malay/Bumi votes by pandering to anwar and praising sky-high the moral “high grounds” of PAS members especially Tok Guru Nik Aziz. And behind TGNA’s back, pkr and dap are secretly sidelining poor delusional but HALAL pas members.

        Youremalaysian = Demi Agama, Bangsa dan Negara. Okay, I’ve commented on this once before. But, why do most UMNO people end their speeches/comments with the slogan of “Demi Agama, Bangsa & Negara”? I fully understand the need to put religion and our nation as top priority as a Malaysian citizen. But why race? Why only for the Malays? Can we not serve all races at the same time? Can we not look past our skin colours and see each other for the values we hold inside rather than what we appear on the outside?

        Ray = Sigh … do me a favour – why don’t you read up on the Malaysian Constitution, huh? Read it slowly and surely. And then come back and discuss the Article 153. Pleeeeaaasssseee help to CONVINCE me that it is has nothing to do with race.

        Penatlah nak layan orang yang buta sejarah dan buta ilmu ni. Letih …

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        • Ray = Aiyoyo how to integrate customs and cultures when one religion forbids certain practices and the other celebrates it (like eating pork and praying to deities).

          I’mMalaysian = Allow me to point out what you may misunderstood.
          ACCEPTING one’s faith
          Acceptance doesn’t mean you practice it, it just means u acknowledge that the other person has the right to they’re own religion.
          Do i need to give u the definition of Integrate? Here’s one taken from TheFreeDictionary.com (You might want to use it more often)
          Integrate = To open to people of all races or ethnic groups without restriction
          Do i need to also give you a definition of Customs & Culture as defined at the site given? And who says I was talking about religion?

          Ray = That was an automatic-damage-control consequence of the unhappiness generated by her OBVIOUS ignorance. Just like Jackie Chan apologising for saying that the chinese needed to be controlled.
          Ray = Ooohhh … nothing wrong man, except that she took POLITICAL opportunity to garner votes by giving a speech, my dear. I am reminded of Siti Nurhaliza with that DAP t-shirt she had to DISPLAY coz her concert was sponsored NOT by fellow citizens but by a POLITICAL party. After the hoo hah, that sweet and demure icon had to plead withdrawal on MEDICAL grounds – the only clause that could save her from contractual breach.

          I’mMalaysian = Yeah sure. And if it was the case that she didn’t approve funds for the surau, all hell will break loose from Ray saying those Pakatan DAP chauvinists do not protect the rights of Muslims etc? The point is, given any situation, your only intent is to demonize anything that Nie Ching or anyone from Pakatan does. Let me ask you this, was it really a speech? Isn’t it a formality to give a word or two as a representative if asked to do so? You probably dont even know the contents of the ‘speech’ you are so against about. Do you? =)

          Ray = Sigh … do me a favour – why don’t you read up on the Malaysian Constitution, huh? Read it slowly and surely. And then come back and discuss the Article 153. Pleeeeaaasssseee help to CONVINCE me that it is has nothing to do with race.

          I’m Malaysian= I think I’ve made a clear point on what I intended to convey. And I’m sure you understand the perspective I’m coming from. It is neither my position to decide or judge the stand you take on race. So, I wish you the best.

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          • youremalaysian = Do i need to give u the definition of Integrate? Here’s one taken from TheFreeDictionary.com (You might want to use it more often) – Integrate = To open to people of all races or ethnic groups without restriction

            Ray = This one is from Cambridge. Happy reading.

            integrate verb:
            1) to mix with and join society or a group of people, often changing to suit their way of life, habits and customs.
            E.g. He seems to find it difficult to integrate socially. It’s very difficult to integrate yourself into a society whose culture is so different from your own.
            Children are often very good at integrating into a new culture. – Note this example – All the more reason for SSS.

            2) to combine two or more things in order to become more effective
            E.g. The aim, said the minister, was to integrate Britain both politically and economically into the European Community. The idea with young children is to integrate learning with play.

            youremalaysian = Yeah sure. And if it was the case that she didn’t approve funds for the surau, all hell will break loose from Ray saying those Pakatan DAP chauvinists do not protect the rights of Muslims etc? The point is, given any situation, your only intent is to demonize anything that Nie Ching or anyone from Pakatan does. Let me ask you this, was it really a speech? Isn’t it a formality to give a word or two as a representative if asked to do so? You probably dont even know the contents of the ‘speech’ you are so against about. Do you? =)

            Ray = Oouucchh …. Someone’s not happy. Now, try not to put words into my mouth or accuse me of actions I did not take, OK? I never said, “those Pakatan DAP chauvinists do not protect the rights of Muslims”. You will get more respect, if you don’t pre-empt another person’s actions. This is GOOD advice for you. Oh more here – how do you know what my intention was? I didn’t “demonize anything that Nie Ching or anyone from Pakatan does”. I just said that your perception of her as “ultimate sweetness of politicians” gave me the “geli” shudders coz my opinion differs. By the way, your accusations can amount to character assasination, you know.

            youremalaysian = I think I’ve made a clear point on what I intended to convey. And I’m sure you understand the perspective I’m coming from. It is neither my position to decide or judge the stand you take on race. So, I wish you the best.

            Ray = Sorry to disappoint you but you have not made anything clear, my dear. As for the constitution, it does take a racial stand – not racist, mind you. And that is why the tycoons in Malaysian are mostly chinese and indians.

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      • I’mMalaysian,

        “why do most UMNO people end their speeches/comments with the slogan of “Demi Agama, Bangsa & Negara”?

        Have you ever heard of “Bangsa Malaysia”, the “Malaysian nationality”, which includes all races? In the broader context, “nation” also means race, you know.

        You may have heard of cases of Malaysians being asked their nationality when abroad and answered “I’m Chinese”. It may not be semantics there but either plain ignorance or racist thinking or even disloyalty to Malaysia they claim to belong to.

        You need to know enough of Bahasa Malaysia. But good of you to ask. But asking “Can we not look past our skin colours” is suggestive of your own thinking, although saying “see each other for the values we hold inside rather than what we appear on the outside” is indicative of a healthy thought.

        Do visit Kempen SSS blog where we have been speaking for the creation of united and cohesive Bangsa Malaysia in the interest of long-term peace and progress in this country.

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        • SSSAdmin = Have you ever heard of “Bangsa Malaysia”, the “Malaysian nationality”, which includes all races? In the broader context, “nation” also means race, you know.

          I’m Malaysian= You’re quite right to say they both denote a single race. However, similar as they may seem, there is a very large difference in its impact on our nation’s unity. While one champions a single entity, the other takes a more inclusive approach by championing the entirety. And I think you can guess which ones better for unity.

          It is in nature’s law that every choice we make comes with its consequence. We can’t pick a stick from one end and not also have the other. Likewise, championing one’s own race will only spur a likewise action. And that’s where it becomes a self destructive cycle; one that is already evident between component parties within BN. BN parties are a paradox to each other to begin with. They each compete to outdo each other in representing their own ethnic groups. Unfortunately, the biggest loser in this game happens to be Malaysia herself. So, I guess what I was trying to ask is this. How do you ‘truly’ serve a Nation that is comprised of a multitude of ethnic groups when the foundation of the component party you belong to requires you to only serve one?

          SSSAdmin = You may have heard of cases of Malaysians being asked their nationality when abroad and answered “I’m Chinese”
          I’mMalaysian= A spot on observation. Unfortunately, that is indeed a sad state we’re in. Perhaps we’ve never been able to feel ‘fully’ Malaysian, mainly because of things like the NEP. Imagine not getting the same privileges ‘just because’ you don’t fit the bill of being the right skin color or have the right parents? I mean, that certainly puts a stretch on our basic moral fibers. As we know, the original objectives of the NEP was to alleviate poverty which mainly affected the Malay population at that time. Poverty as we understand is measured in financial numbers not color. Why not have an Economic policy that addresses poverty by that definition? If it is the Malays who comprise most of those who are in poverty, then by merit, it will be the Malays who will be the biggest beneficiary of that system.

          SSSAdmin = Do visit Kempen SSS blog where we have been speaking for the creation of united and cohesive Bangsa Malaysia in the interest of long-term peace and progress in this country.

          I’mMalaysian = I have no qualms about having a SSS school and i too see many positivity coming out of it. I myself am a graduate of that system coming from a sekolah kebangsaan. I am all for it.

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          • “Imagine not getting the same privileges ‘just because’ you don’t fit the bill of being the right skin color or have the right parents?” –

            That’s leaning towards racism there. No skin colour or parentage being the basis of the NEP.

            The basis was the Special Position of the Malays from which the NEP was drawn. Rich and poor was also the basis but the Malays were and are the disadvantaged lot in this country. The British paid attention on the Chinese because they wanted goods and services for their factories in England and wanted the Malays to look after food production in the country and let them continue to e rice farmers and fishermen.

            In China, the southerners were the disadvantaged lot and the foreign rulers, the Manchus, allocated 25% of the Civil Service posts to the less educated and the less economically advanced southern Chinese compared to the northern Chinese.

            If the Manchus also practised giving assistance to the southern Chinese, from whom Malaysians are descended, there’s no reason Chinese in Malaysia cannot accept assistance being given to the disadvantaged in Malaysia – who happen to be Malays.

            Anyway, non-Malays got citizenship in exchange. Resenting the Malay Special Position makes the Malays resent the non-Malay citizenship right and that’s not good for everybody.

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  5. The Pemuda is becoming insignificant due to the bunch that are leading the pack. KJ is the wannabe prince neither love or feared by the people therefore there is no way he can control Pemuda in UMNO let alone leading the young Malays.

    He is the example of pure failure/leakage of NEP, KJ alone is eating the largest portion of the Malay’s economy cake. Obviously he is trying hard to convince the crowd he does have the brain (due to the ox-bridge thingy) which that to can be doubtful to me.

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  6. 1 Malaysia is and will remain a Hippocratic joke unless the whole nation…all society comes to a compromise of how to live forward with a common goal. Let us identify all the social differences amongst us and negotiate to find common denominators that we can live with. Call me anything but empowered to enforce, I will request that the nation works towards making all of us HALAL….a way of LIFE. We shall have ONE system of education and no more non NATIONAL TYPE schools.
    Social habits like smoking,consuming alcohol ,gambling shall have the laws to be dealt with and enforced.
    NO more PIGS and this nation shall no longer have much differences with each other .
    Never mind the dogs.
    The way to UNITY is through our stomachs. Is it that difficult to accept.?

    Make it simple…from a simple mind

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    • Funny that I was thinking of the same scenario but stopped short of accepting that idea. Food does seem to be a big part that separates the mixing of Muslim/Malay & non-Malays. But in reality, that would be imposing our beliefs on someone else. Would you accept an environment where all the food that you eat shall be made NON-HALAL? Of course not, even though I am of Chinese descent, I wouldn’t agree to it because I believe you’ve got your freedom/ right to exercise the customs of the Muslim religion.

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  7. Dia mana tau pasal DEB.Sekolah kt oversea.manalah dia tahu penderitaan orang2 melayu yang keje kampung,nelayan,petani,pesawah,penoreh getah….miskin tapi anak ramai.

    Manalah dia tahu jasa DEB.anak2 melayu miskin yg bergeliga otaknya dihantar melanjutkan pelajaran ke institut2 pengajian tinggi dalam dan luar negara dan diberikan biasiswa.yang dia tahu meritokrasi kononnya.

    kalau pemimpin 2 kita dahulu cam bapak mertua dia,barulah betul apa yg z.aid kata malaysia nih cam zimbwabwe.

    DEBlah yang membantu orang melayu untuk mengorak langkah bagi duduk sama rendah dan berdiri sama tinggi dengan orang lain.

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  8. What constituition are you talking about? The one this country was founded on or the one you fellas have completely distorted? You guys are probably the only Tuan’s in the world asking for 30% handycaps. Very amusing.

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    • Must not allow you to say your rabid nonsense unchallenged. Just a few words – stupid, ignorant, racist, no clue about the Constitution, if you claim Malaysian citizenship yet appearing not accepting Bahasa Malaysia and Malay Special Position parts of the Constitution that you imply we distort, you should drop your citizenship and leave this country.

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    • Malaysia-today.net has started releasing documents of the original Social Contract as agreed upon. It would be interesting to see the revelation of what our forefathers have really agreed upon and how that has evolved to its current state.

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  9. Jebat or whoever you are, I personally think that Khairy is making sense here. Isn’t the NEP elitist? Cronies make lots of easy money, but what good does it really brings to the majority Malays? School? Grade B colleges? These are what responsible governments must give to the people (at least colleges not, grade B). Many people in my kampong are having trouble to pay back loans for diplomas and degrees that sucks. Kerja kilang beb lepasan kolej! Be fair and be down to earth. Let Pakatan Rakyat rule for one term and clear the corruption. They can’t change the CONSTITUTION!

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    • Where have you been, old boy, admirer of hingus boy? Surely you know that Khairy is all those that you mentioned – “elitist? Cronies make lots of easy money, but what good does it really brings to the majority Malays?”

      Let Pakatan Rakyat rule? Is not Anwar the same – “elitist? Cronies make lots of easy money, but what good does it really brings to the majority Malays?”

      Anwar leading this country? Jahanamlah negara, beb. The likes of Nik Aziz ruling this country? Tuhan mencarut tak habis habis lah, kata dia. LKS ruling this country? Another 13 May lah kawan, Tony Pua (attacking Bumi privilege), Ronnie Liu (say everybody corrupt except his letterhead).

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    • Ace, I totally agree with you brother. This Jebat fellow & many more of his kind does not stand in the reality (berpijak di bumi nyata). These so call Melayu tulin still think that Melayu is a supreme race in Malaysia. Guess what bro Jebat, dream on!! NEP or whatever the abbv that you want to put is actually enriching CRONIEs & the elitist. Wh, you think that because of NEP we get to built all the schools & the unis? You said get the kampong people to work hard for business opportunities. How to work if the job itself didnot even trickle down. Kerja sampai peluh punggong pun tak boleh senang la. Apa lagi dengan perangai PHD sesama Melayu. Tanah Melayu is DOOM.

      God bless,
      Tok Janggut

      JMD : You are to be blamed if you find yourself not in the position yo had hoped for. Not anything else. NEP had given you the opportunities. I know many people who became successful without getting multi million contracts or pink forms. Success here means, living in a comfortable life. I know many Malays living this kind of life. Maybe you and Ace wanted the NEP to make every Malay a multi millionaire. That is not its objectives. It’s objectives if to eradicate poverty and address the economic imbalances among races.

      If this country had been managed by say, somebody like Pol Pot, Mao Ze Dong or Hitler, there won’t even be any schools for you. That is the best thing of the NEP. If you remain lazy, and still non committal about your own future, you shall remain like this. Angry at other people for no apparent reason. Saying stupid things like I think Malays are the supreme race of Malaysia. When did I ever say that? You work hard. Do SWOT analysis of yourself. Then insyaallah you can succeed.

      If there is perangai hasad dengki sesama Melayu, then that is your fault. Not the NEP. Hate the player not the game bro. Thank you.

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      • Abdullah/ Tok Janggut,
        There are many stories of success from orang kampung. Even there are millionaires coming from rural area.

        Care to explain how they can be successful?

        ~ OnDaStreet

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    • “Let Pakatan Rakyat rule for one term and clear the corruption.”

      Gosh… please dude… read more, do your own observation and analysis, open your heart and mind, then I believe you will retract this unsubstantiated statement.

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  10. The speech that YB Khairy gave is commendable. I think Malaysia needs to move forward past its racial inclination. BN component parties are a paradox to each other to begin with. Each party self serving their own race. To my Malay friends in UMNO, what if a Chinese man rants out to a Malay, that he will defend his own race rather than that of a Malay person; all in the name of Buddhism, Chinese & Country? How would you feel? Likewise, to my Chinese friends in MCA, how would you feel if a Malay person says he’d rather give the job opportunity to a Malay rather than a Chinese, ‘just because’ of the colour of his skin? I would appreciate a discussion on this from other fellow commentators

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    • I’mMalaysian,

      May be a bit late but I’d like to respond to your wish for a discussion on the subject of racial inclination.

      Racial inclination is a natural tendency. As natural as animals instinctively protect and feed their offspring. Education and environment can change tendencies among human beings. Broad mindedness is the key to that. Some call it or identify themselves with liberalism. That needs not be so, and it may be pseudo-liberalism to pretend broad mindedness when they, for example, talk about equality only from what they need, or not broad minded enough as to question the Special Position of the Malays and the Bumiputeras of Sabah and Sarawak.

      You see, broad mindedness must be all-encompassing. It includes being humble, fair and sincere with your fellow citizens. And it must be based on what is right and acceptable. In all democracies, the reference point must be the Constitution. It’s the highest set of laws in the country, they say. It’s been agreed by the representatives of the people. Until and unless such a situation comes about groups or communities will always have, again, the natural human feelings of envy, jealousy, grudge etc. In a multi-racial country, such groups or communities are called races.

      Hence, racial tendencies occur when there are inequalities among races. Elsewhere, it may be inequalities between the haves and the have nots. Such inequalities even sparked revolutions. Like in France, Russia and China centuries ago. In Malaysia it has been said to be the latent or unseen cause of the 1969 race riots.

      Indeed, Malaysia must “move forward past its racial inclination”. This is easier said than done. But we must try and keep on trying.

      Political parties have been allowed, since British colonial times, to be registered based on race. Until the idea of direct membership to BN etc becomes acceptable and popular, we are going to be mired in racial inclinations. Until then, we must live and let live. Don’t stop the Chinese become richer and more educated. But DAP and MCA must not try to erode Malay rights and privileges. No need to argue endlessly what are Malay rights and privileges, like one Universiti Malaya pseudo-liberal law lecturer tried to do – he’s an environmental lawyer, not even a constitutional lawyer. Just respect what are written in the Constitution which had been painstakingly thought out and drafted by British constitutional law experts, discussed and debated in Parliament at Merdeka and at the formation of Malaysia.

      We need to be broad minded to not be racially inclined, don’t you think? We need to get to a reasonable level of equality in the important aspects of our lives. And in multi-racial Malaysia, the economy and education are the most important. We need not talk about the majority population controlling the economy. But we need to see some semblance of equality in wealth and in the number of professionals among the majority population of the country. A fellow like the UM law lecturer is not broad minded or liberal at all – he is really narrow minded and is a pseudo-liberal. And that’s not being racial – he, like me, is of the same race!

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  11. Well said JMD. I only wish your article is in the newspaper and NOT Khairy’s speech which been plastering the front page of all newspapers today. Posted in the FB, tweeted it in Twitter, Digged it. Hopeful many young malay can read your article and not to be influenced by the Oxford idiot currently on the helm of Ketua Pemuda.

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  12. Folks,

    I do not find the last 2 paragraphs as described in the ‘critique’, i.e., about the Middle Eastern university and Wah Lai Toi chanel and the subsequent paragraph, to be too difficult to achieve. It is in the speech itself, the subsequent paaragraph.

    It all boils down to this saying ‘To have friends, first, be a friend yourself.’

    Now, if only all communities practice this🙂

    It is all about the individual taking this first step to venture out. Sure you get hurt sometimes, but it is a journey worth taking.

    Do we dare? In some neighbourhood, some folks do not even know who the neighbour is!!!

    For a greater Malaysia.

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    • Ya Jimmy, ‘To have friends, first, be a friend yourself.’

      Tell them don’t start asking to change the Bumi housing discount and abolish the 30% Bumi equity target. It will attract calls for abolishing citizenship right. And both acts are not friendly.

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      • Greetings Izham,

        I am in full of agreement with the discount for the deserving bumi folks and other help being extended to the deserving bumi folks. And I think most non bumis share the same thoughts.

        In fact, I have bumi staff in my office and we (bumis and non bumis) spare all efforts into making them good, as well as the non bumi. There are many bumis that are as capable as the non bumi and many non bumis that cannot perform as well.

        But, please help me to understand why a bumi is to be given a discount to buy a bungalow costing well over a million ringgit and why a non bumi 10A student from a hawker parent finds it so difficult to get a place into university?

        In the spirit of a better understanding, if you could just help me to see where the bumis are coming from, it would be most helpful for us, at least to me. 🙂

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        • Jimmy,

          I can only speak from what I read. A lot from the Kempen SSS blog.

          On the bumi housing discount.it’s like the Chinese community being the wealthiest and most advanced educationally in the country, are still asking and being given places in public universities and scholarships – not just the top achievers kind but also those RM45,000 per year that some one here has already written about. Let’s not go into the ones who can afford but still expect and get scholarship e.g among the top scholars. Yet so many Chinese multi-millionaires donating for scholarships until UTAR was said to refuse RM 30 million donation.

          Haven’t read of any Chinese saying I don’t want a scholarship for my son because I can afford it, like the student in Perth who commented in the next post after this.

          It’s the principle of it – you get the privilege, you might or might not want to use it., but when some others want to touch that principle of assisting the community that has been left behind by 80 years of deliberate British colonial policy, all in that community are likely to react. Allowing it be touched will lead to no end – the MCA subsequently seditiously started asking for the 30% Bumi equity target be abolished. Imagine that.

          Have to rush out now. Will tackle the next part of your request another time.

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        • Jimmy,

          Continuation –

          The Kempen SSS post (before the current one) happens to carry the relevant parts of the MCA President’s speech to their General Assembly saying the Chinese this year achieves 92% places in universities. Not sure if this includes places in overseas universities that the promoters of the Chinese schools United Examinations Certificate managed to secure.

          You see, with money you can get almost everything. And there are so many University and university colleges (twinning with foreign universities) that the Chinese have been allowed to operate in this country. So, why do the Chinese still want more and more? Give chance la to the Malays who form the majority in the country but the most educated and occupying the professional jobs in this country are mostly Chinese. As some one I read somewhere said, let’s be reasonable, friend.

          As to “where the bumis are coming from”, if you mean their origins in this country – they come from the Malay Archipelago or Gugusan Pulau-Pulau Melayu. Again it has been pointed out that the book “Tamadun Alam Melayu” published by the Historical Society of Malaysia tells of the research and scientific studies carried out by linguists, anthropologists, archaeologists and other experts since the 19th Century, and especially in the 2nd half of the 20th Century, showing that the Malays originated from this region over 5,000 years ago.

          They have been in and out of this region. They speak over a thousand “Rumpun Melayu” languages. The Melayu of the ancient kingdom of Langkasuka (Patani), the subjects of the Srivijaya Empire, the Majapahit Empire, the Bugis, the Javanese, the Banjarese, the Bajaus, the Suluks, etc have been moving in and out of Peninsular Malaysia and Nusantara since time immemorial and are now known in Malaysia as Malays. The Orang Asli of Peninsular Malaysia and the original inhabitants of Sabah and Sarawak are also of the Rumpun Melayu, their languages are similar in many respects to the Malay language and also be called Malay. The religious differences may not describe them as Constitutional Malay but they have been referred to as Bumiputera as well. Those in Indonesia, the Philippines, the Pacific islands, and some in Australia (e.g Christmas Island) and New Zealand (Maoris) are also members of the large Malay family. The terms Proto Malays, Deutero Malays, Malayo-Polynisians and Astronesians all refer to one and the same Malay family.

          The theory propounded some time back that Malays originated from Taiwan has been debunked. There’s also the theory that the Malays originated from Yunan some 2,000 years ago but the scores of researches and scientific studies explained in that book stated above point to the Malays originating from the Malay Archipelago some 5,000 years ago and have been moving in and out of the region. Right now there is a Malay community in Vietnam and in Kompong Cam (the Champa Malays) in Cambodia. The findings explained in the book published in 2009 should put paid the mischievous remarks that the Malays are also pendatang or that the Malays are not the original settlers of this country.

          Hope it helps you understand and help spread greater understanding, goodwill and harmony among us.

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          • Hi Izham,

            Since you are the reasonable type that talk less nonsense, I would like to share with you some of my view. Hope we could understand each other better with the engagement.

            1. MCA is a past tense; thus I think it is much better if you could make your argument not base on what MCA said or done.

            2. On housing discount, the main thrust of Jimmy contention is whether the rich should enjoy similar rate of discount as the poor (not on racial context). The twin objectives of NEP are the eradication of poverty for all Malaysians irrespective of race and the correction of the racial economic imbalances in terms of income, employment and wealth. Therefore, I believe the discount granted regardless of income serves only part of the NEP objective. What do you think?

            3. If you drop by to Dr Hsu blog, he did mention many times his kids are top scorers that entitle to scholarship, however he insist to pay their tertiary education fee with his own hard earn money. This is rare but does happen.

            4. The 30 million donations is a challenge to MCA cronies that insist not to build hostel for the UTAR students that could eventually lower down the property price surrounding the university. Who is the owner of the land? Your guess is as good as mine.

            This is all for the time being. Thank you in advance for reading my comment.

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            • Hua Yong,

              Unable to reply to you earlier but here I am.

              By all means, let’s share our views in the interest of better understanding, goodwill and harmony among us Malaysians. Above all, let’s be sincere and reasonable, and contribute what we can towards the well being of Malaysia.

              I disagree that “MCA is a past tense”; the former President who lost out in the last party elections spoke about money politics having sway and the new group leading the party being more vocal and less respectful of the BN machinery for airing grouses. It’s certainly won’t be much better to make my arguments not based on what MCA said or did, where relevant.

              On the Bumi housing discount, it has been pointed out elsewhere here that it is the right of the Bumiputeras, and touching it is like touching the right to citizenship of the non-Bumis. No one can say that Chinese born in this country cannot have citizenship because they don’t speak BM well, as much as no one can say that the right to the Bumi housing discount cannot be given to the Malays who are rich. Malay rights cannot be negotiable as much as Chinese citizenship right is not.

              The discount granted was to help the Malays own homes. It has also been pointed out that the rich Malays don’t buy homes – they buy land and build their homes.

              Good that there are Chinese who also skip asking for scholarships. But you also pointed out that such cases are rare. Because the Chinese are generally wealthy, and because there are many Chinese multi-millionaires ready to donate millions of Ringgits as scholarships to the less well off Chinese, the matter of scholarships from the Government should not be an issue. Especially when UTAR even rejects RM30 million donation from a Chinese multi-millionaire, whatever the reason may be. But the Chinese keep asking for scholarships from the Government. Do you think that is reasonable? The Chinese have huge wealth and form the majority of those qualified in the professional field for so long already.

              Lets share and share alike. Where Chinese already have a huge share of wealth and control the economy, and already have a vast number of qualified professionals, let the Malays and others have a reasonable share of those.

              And it’s not true that the Chinese pay the most tax in the country. Figures I often come across attributed to the Treasury or Inland Revenue Dept are that the Chinese pay about 30% tax, the GLCs pay 40%, the Malays and others including foreigners pay 30%.

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              • Hmmm…Izham, I retract back my earlier statement “reasonable type that talk less nonsense”, I perhaps misunderstood your stance. Anyway, thanks for the reply.

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              • Hua Yong,

                Now you are getting bitchy, aren’t you? Taking back your words just because I disagree with you? You now imply that I talk nonsense?

                I’m disappointed in you. Wonder how many other occasions involving how many other people you withdraw your words. Can I trust you as a fellow Malaysian? Assuming you are Malaysian, that is.

                Obviously you are sore with MCA. Your’e DAP or DAP supporter perhaps?

                Or is it my views about Chinese wealth and scholarships etc that you dislike? Is it the tax figures? Or my call for “share and share alike”? Or Is it because you find my views hitting the nail on the head?

                You won’t even engage in a discussion, after having asked for one. And you “Hope we could understand each other better with the engagement”. What a fellow you are.

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        • Well, for starters, it is compensation for the years and years of British colonisation of this Tanah Melayu.

          They helped themselves to the riches of the land and also imposed the immigrant-workers-turned-citizens onto the gracious landowners. As a result, the Malay/Bumi had to tolerate alien culture and contradictory and questionable habits / practices in their homeland.

          So it is high time, the landlords get to reap and enjoy the riches that this blessed land offers. And by landlord, it is the racial aspect that protects the Malay/Bumi entitlement accorded to them as special rights.

          So the hawker’s bright child has to compete with other non-bumi children, not with the Bumiputeras. You will of course see this as blatant discrimination BUT in actual fact it is levelling the playing field.

          Put it in another way – the Bumi discount applies to ALL bumiputeras. And the 10A non-bumi has to compete with other non-bumi for places in the university. Please note that 10As just denotes hard work and memory power – it is not a true reflection of ability and talent.

          Imagine this scenario – Youngest daughter questioned her parents as to why elder sister gets more privileges than herself which she feels is UNFAIR. Parents had to finally reveal that youngest daughter is actually adopted from a poor family and is not blood-related.

          So, that is why youngest daughter had to be told early that she is adopted, before she arrogantly demands EQUAL share in the family. Deputy PM is trying to do this by making History a compulsory pass, so that arrogant adopted citizens do not go around questioning this and that, and demanding equal rights.

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          • Hahaha..another one of Ray’s rants..totally devoids of logic and merits.

            Ray said:-“So it is high time, the landlords get to reap and enjoy the riches that this blessed land offers”

            But he forgets that you only reap what you sow. So, kalau you never sow anything you get nothing ok. This is a fact. Even with assistance, you still have to work for it. Dont expect durian runtuh everyday. Again, Ray fails to acknowledge that non-bumis had a hand in building this country from independence. Lain cerita la if the pendatangs come and do nothing and expect everything.

            Ray said:-“So the hawker’s bright child has to compete with other non-bumi children, not with the Bumiputeras. You will of course see this as blatant discrimination BUT in actual fact it is levelling the playing field.”

            But Ray forgot to say..kalau the Malay like the Perth student’s parents sudah level, perlukah scholarship lagi? Kan bagus if that scolarship is given to a fellow poorer Malay family. This is the basis of leveling the playing field. But how ironic that scholarship is still offered to wealthy (leveled) bumis? Does Ray want scholarship for all Malays irrespective of their financial background? Be frank about it then.

            Ray said-“Put it in another way – the Bumi discount applies to ALL bumiputeras. And the 10A non-bumi has to compete with other non-bumi for places in the university. Please note that 10As just denotes hard work and memory power – it is not a true reflection of ability and talent.”

            I LOLed when I read this. The problem with Ray is this ..on one hand he says -level the field but on the other hand …takpe kalau you kaya ambik discount to all. Apasal ni? I will laugh my ass off if Tan Sri Syed Mokthar Al Bukhary ask “bang ade discount ke kalau beli rumah?” Kalau Ray nak discounts for all..then just say so la..tak payah kata ..err.discount tu to level the field. Tak payah explain to somebody on the street kenapa discount for rumah bangalow 5 juta. I propose that kalau rumah naik 1 juta, bayar full price..lepas tu..7% tu bagi zakat. At least the monies goes back to the malays. Same same wat…

            On the point that 10As tu not true relection on talent dan ability..hahaha so to Ray, we might as well abolish SPM /STPM. What for kalau it is not a guage. Perhaps maybe our able and talented Ray can give an alternative?

            Finally Ray said this-“Imagine this scenario – Youngest daughter questioned her parents as to why elder sister gets more privileges than herself which she feels is UNFAIR. Parents had to finally reveal that youngest daughter is actually adopted from a poor family and is not blood-related.

            So, that is why youngest daughter had to be told early that she is adopted, before she arrogantly demands EQUAL share in the family. Deputy PM is trying to do this by making History a compulsory pass, so that arrogant adopted citizens do not go around questioning this and that, and demanding equal rights.”

            This IMHO is utter nonsense. What is the point you adopt kalau you are not going to be fair? I am sure alot of parents out there can understand my views? maybe Ray is not a parent so he dont understand unconditional love for a child. Imagine that, after somoen applies to adopt a child and tells the child….my dear anak, you anak angkat so minta maaf abah tak sayang you 100%..I sayang you 70% saje ok?. As usual, Ray always gives really bad examples – last I remember was 1% bumi poor 99% non bumi rich. ROFL!!. Tak logik la. Dont forgot lo..when you old …you expect your anak angkat to jaga you 70% saje ke

            As usual, I await for some amusing retort from Ray. Thanks for making my day.

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            • Before, or as ray’s reply may be queing for modertation, let me chip in here.

              This gladfly fellow is being personal, saying “rants..totally devoids of logic and merits”, LOL his ass and all.

              Just state your points, man. Others can say the same of you and it won’t be pleasant, wd it?

              He quoted unacceptable example – Tan Sri Syed Mokhtar asking for housing discount. The issue is the discount is given to Bumis and there are Bumis who
              are on the level playing field not taking the assistance they are entitled to, like the family of the student in Perth. And the well off don’t really buy housing units – they buy land and build special design homes.

              But when you question that privilege, which comes under the ambit of the Special Position of the Malays, they’ll want to question the quid pro quo – your citizenship right. No good, ain’t it?

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              • Dear f,

                My apologies if my words had stung you. Please I do not mean to offend. Just that me and Ray had our previous joust and suffice to say we have some issues between us. Aiyah..its like siblings taking it out against each other..you know if you had brothers.

                I don’t mean to belittle Ray or trying to outsmart him in any way. I am just trying to let him have a dose of his own medicine. True, Tan Sri Mohktar’s example may seem to you ludricous, but hey Ray once said 99% of the Chinese is rich. So, what goes around comes around. But you have to agree with me that sometimes Ray is really bad at illustrating something. I mean come on, adopted child?? My niece is adopted so maybe I kinda flipped when Ray used it as an example.

                Well I take your point, yes..I am not generalising that all Bumi’s are greedy that they are rich they still yearn for scholarship or so on. The Perth student’s parents is an example. I am just advocating that perhaps the assistance (not previllege) should halt once the level is reached. I mean, my point is that properties above certain threshold shall be paid in full but the discount portion goes to zakat. Is that a bad idea? To me its like from left pocket to right pocket. Not true..pls enlighten me.

                In any way, my unreserved apology if my words offended Ray in any way. At least I know when to back down when the chips are down. Lol.

                p.s Actually how much TSSM’s house is worth ? I did the project in Bukit Tunku. Its not that far fetch actually.

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            • Happyinsect = non-bumis had a hand in building this country from independence

              Ray = well, the non-bumis could have been asked to sign the FOREIGN WORKER contract, work your butts out, then pack your bags and LEAVE after your contract ends – just like what the Americans did to the chinese rail-workers.

              Happyinsect = Kan bagus if that scolarship is given to a fellow poorer Malay family. This is the basis of leveling the playing field. But how ironic that scholarship is still offered to wealthy (leveled) bumis? Does Ray want scholarship for all Malays irrespective of their financial background?

              Ray = See this twisted pseudo intellect – the level playing field is between the Malay/Bumi VERSUS the nons, NOT amongst the Malay/Bumi. Are you capable of understanding the ESSENCE of the constitution?

              Happyinsect = I will laugh my ass off if Tan Sri Syed Mokthar Al Bukhary ask “bang ade discount ke kalau beli rumah?”

              Ray = Heh heh, you can laugh all you like, but there is no stopping rich Malays from enjoying these bumi discounts, because Tan Sri Syed Mokthar Al Bukhary will LEVEL the playing field against Chinese and Indian tycoons in Malaysia. Are you questioning the RIGHTS of Malay/Bumi to become tycoons in their own homeland, eh? You will be crying soon enough, to see the middle-income Malay/Bumi becoming tycoons to LEVEL the playing field, so that the Chinese and Indians are not the ONLY ones ending up as tycoons in Tanah Melayu. Psst – eat your heart out! Remember the one who laughs last, laughs the LOUDEST.

              Happyinsect = On the point that 10As tu not true relection on talent dan ability..hahaha so to Ray, we might as well abolish SPM /STPM. What for kalau it is not a guage. Perhaps maybe our able and talented Ray can give an alternative?

              Ray = Sure happyinsect, I’m happy to oblige. The alternative would be a DIFFERENT assessment method, where the real test challenges your thinking, analytical and summation abilities. The best way to do this is to assign projects where periodical assessment is done in stages involving several assessors not just one teacher. Written examination in halls are purely testing memory power, which can be enhanced by ROTE learning. A student who burns midnight oil – sandwiched with an army of tutors CAN get 10As – strictly by studying hard and memorizing the 10-year series answers.

              The really gifted child is one who can self-access wide-ranging information from the libraries, internet, journals, interviews with people, self-observation etc. He then “digests” by analyzing data and then summarise findings into an organized and meaningful summation. – Ada faham??

              Happyinsect = This IMHO is utter nonsense. What is the point you adopt kalau you are not going to be fair? I am sure alot of parents out there can understand my views? maybe Ray is not a parent so he dont understand unconditional love for a child. Imagine that, after somoen applies to adopt a child and tells the child….my dear anak, you anak angkat so minta maaf abah tak sayang you 100%..I sayang you 70% saje ok?. As usual, Ray always gives really bad examples – last I remember was 1% bumi poor 99% non bumi rich. ROFL!!. Tak logik la. Dont forgot lo..when you old …you expect your anak angkat to jaga you 70% saje ke

              Ray = Aisehman, this kind of low intellectual ability is really a waste of time and space. You adopt (social contract), because you felt PITY on the poor parentless child. Since you are gracious and kind, you provide shelter for this abandoned child (the stateless immigrant workers). But you are also WISE enough to foresee that the adopted child might DEMAND rights only provided for your blood children. So you put in a provision in your will (article 153) to protect the birthrights of your own children. The adopted child although loved, will not get the same rights simply because they are adopted (non-bumi).

              Kesian, si lalatceria ni dah nampak sangat melatah. Kalau pendapatnya memberi faedah takpe jugak, buang masa dan tenaga aje!

              p.s. from his vocab, sentence structure and debating process, happyinsect is surely no match for ray, heh heh, jangan marah, nanti kena jual (laku ke tidak?) and oops sorry to spoil your day

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              • Dear Sinar..

                I am still laughing and having a good day. Let the name calling continue..hehe.

                Just a short point of rebuttal. One, your concept of “The alternative would be a DIFFERENT assessment method, where the real test challenges your thinking, analytical and summation abilities. The best way to do this is to assign projects where periodical assessment is done in stages involving several assessors not just one teacher” is neither here not there. I asked you, alternative to SPM/STPM but you give a concept.

                Second, America did not send the “Tong San people” back. Today they are citizen’s of USA.

                Thirdly, I dont mind TSSM level it with the Cina tycoons. I get more projects (itulah tak baca carefully).

                Lastly, Sinar oh Sinar..tepuk dada tanya selera. You are the one with the this twisted pseudo intellect. Your arguments will have merits if all bumis are accorded scholarship irrespective of financial background. It is a fact that not all bumi gets scholarship. So when 1 scholarship is given to someone who actually can afford finance their studies, you have taken away the opportunity for another (in bumi aspect). My logic is plain and simple, if one can afford it, pass it on to another. So kalau anak datuk Melayu dapat biasiswa, pass and bagilah kepada anak Haji di kampung. Mungkin keputusan anak Haji tak sebagus anak Datuk tapi saya harap peluang tersebut harus dibagi kepada anak Haji. Kenapa? Sebab inilah prisip Artikel 153, iaitu menolong anak-anak bumiputra yang ketinggalan untuk memajukan diri. This is also you dont understand ah? Kolot..

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              • Haiyaya lalatceria

                Ray = How shallow can your IQ capacity be? As William Shakespeare (1564-1616) British poet and playwright, says, “What’s in a name? That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet.” Just like lalatceria or happyinsect or gladfly– all three refers to the same entity, heh heh.

                Ray = As for the rest of your ramblings, I see some u-turns here and there, just to “tegakkan benang yang dah basah”. Sometimes I wonder if you yourself understand what you write.

                For example:
                Happyinsect@1 = I will laugh my ass off if Tan Sri Syed Mokthar Al Bukhary ask “bang ade discount ke kalau beli rumah?”

                followed by lalatceria@2 = I dont mind TSSM level it with the Cina tycoons. I get more projects (itulah tak baca carefully).

                See this poor twisted pseudo intellect – too many u-turns sampai orang pening lalat, oh lalat …

                Jangan marah ya.

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          • Firstly, just want to say, i think we’ve got a very good discussion going on here in this site. Though we may hold vastly different views on current issues, I truly truly respect some of the opposing arguments presented. Well formed intellectual ideas indeed.

            However Ray, if you dont mind me saying, i don’t quite agree to your analogy on the adopted daughter. The thing is, most of us here are not born of a different parent (China/India) and later adopted by a new family (Malaysia). In fact, we were born in Malaysia. We ARE a product of Malaysia. Are we not as much a child of Malaysia as you are then?

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            • Haiya ‘youremalaysian’

              The analogy is contextually-based on the constitution lah. Alamak, some people are rather dense that they are not able to relate the ‘adopted child’ analogy to the article 153.

              Sometimes penatlah nak explain in a long thesis/dissertation to people like ‘youremalaysian’ and the euphoric ‘happyinsect’.

              Born a Malaysian but not a bumiputera – does that ring an intellectual bell in your grey matter.

              Aisehman, the level of debate has gone down a notch, sad.

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  13. I think KJ only understood the part of NEP that he enjoyed i.e dapat “free” shares like ECM Libra, nepotism & cronism..

    Whereas some of the Malays think that NEP = charity.. i.e no need to do anything but can be rich.

    To me NEP=opportunity. If you are smart enough to grab it and work & think hard on how to make it work, success will be yours insyaAllah.

    Somebody asked me once, what do I gain from NEP? Mind you I came from humble background, no connection whatsoever to the ruling or opposition party. The simple man of the street. I said plenty:
    1. Good education – boarding school + local university
    2. Good private company to work for
    3. Good investment opportunity – PNB
    4. 7% house discount

    Eventho I may not be in Forbes rich list ever, I’m happy with my life🙂

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    • Exactly what JMD is trying to say… People think NEP is like a direct gift to cronies and proxies.. NEP is what brought about the surge of educated Malays in this country. I salute you because it is exactly that, what NEP is all about. Without it, most likely most Malays are still living in the kampungs and less become leaders in the country’s economy.

      I believe under the reign of Dr M, all this issue about Malay rights have not been blatantly challenged by every Tom, dick and Harry on the street. Everyone understood the social contract, the Chinese still thrived and control most of the economy and own most of the properties and maintain their vernacular schools whilst the malays go about “business as usual” with their lives, education supported by whatever aspects of the NEP that are relevant to them. The Indians may not do as well as the Chinese but that’s not the faucet of the NEP. If the Chinese can succeed, then any Indian can too. At the end of the day, we have a peaceful and less divided nation… It’s sad that PAk Lah, with the help of the current Ketua Pemuda (who is a product of the NEP) has managed to erode the stability of the divisive yet united nation.

      May Allah help us all…

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      • Under Mahathir, no nonsense was allowed. Under Pak Lah, macam macam boleh, including seditious remarks, questioning NEP and Special Position. Under Najib, too.

        Najib must act. The authorities take a cue from his policies, his statements, to be in conformity with what the boss wants. He must show examples. Like charging Ling Liong Sik in court. He should give indications for the authorities to charge the fellows calling for abolition of the 30% Bumi equity target.

        Otherwise fellows become emboldened. Both at further anti- Malay Position statements as well as the abolish citizenship reaction. Not good for the country.

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  14. Race based parties like UMNO, MCA and MIC are the problems of the Malays, Chinese and Indians. Race-based politics always and will always generate racist policies. History has proven it and even current politics in other countries have prove it. Malaysia confirmed it with UMNO in power for 50 years.

    Get rid of race based parties. UMNO. MCA and MIC should be disbanded and reconstructed to fight for injustices based on socio-economic issues, not on race issues.

    UMNO is instilling racial insecurity and pursuing politics of the handicapped. The Malay community is not an handicapped community. UMNO made them looked like a community of disabled and resource-retarded individuals.

    JMD : Instill SSS first and race based parties will disappear because multi racial parties will arise and created by the new truly multi racial generation that will graduate from this system. Trust me.

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    • I agree to JMD’s reasoning of a single stream school. In fact most developed countries out there practice that. The chinese/indian language wouldn’t need to be taken out either & can be made into an option. Therefore, those who feel the importance of mastering those languages can opt to do so.

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  15. This writer thinks he knows what other non thoughts but he is wrong. Let him be a non. How would you feel if you are sideline all the time. Having 10-11A and yet could not get a scholarship. Thinking that one stream of education will solve the problem. It will be worse because the non will be insulted in school daily, being called pendatangs and whores and go back to China or Indians are beggars and dogs, inspite of paying the most taxes. If the non do not have vernacular school, then how are they going to get to universities overseas if they have a poor command of English or Chinese. Here they cannot get into the universities because of not enough places for them. At least with a good command of English or chinese, they can study overseas in Singapore or China. They can also do business with China if they know Mandarin otherwise if no more vernacular school and do not understand Mandarin like many chinese nowadays, how to bring business from China and Taiwan into Malaysia. When receiving calls from China, they speak B.M., do you think the chinese in China will understand. If the non continue to be sidelined, they will all relocate their business overseas and Malaysians will lose their jobs in the thousands. Think about it, the non are fed-up of all the racism and MCA could not represent them because their voices are muted by UMNO.
    I am a non and I speak and feel as a non.

    JMD : Do you know why you feel like an outcast? Because you deem yourself as one. Why do you feel insecure? Can’t you blend with the rest of the people here in Malaysia? Do you know what is Bahasa Malaysia. That is the basis of being Orang Malaysia.

    And please cut the nonsense Ting. You are just playing the victim when you say ‘It will be worse because the non will be insulted in school daily, being called pendatangs and whores and go back to China or Indians are beggars and dogs, inspite of paying the most taxes’.

    If everyone is in one single stream education, I don’t see that as a major problem. Educators will be sent for improvement course. In my days in Victoria Institution, I never once seen an incident like how you would like every non Malay to fear.

    Now, if we don’t have that kind of incidences, and the quality of education is improved, I am sure you will agree that OneSchool is the best system there is.

    The rest of your comment is a bit shaky. Graduates after SPM that went on to foreign universities are mostly from vernacular schools? Really? They learn English in national secondary chools right?

    And are you saying that when Americans or other English speaking countries deal with China, they built chinese schools in their country where Mandarin is the main medium of instruction in those schools so that their citizens can deal with China better?

    Again, you feel like a non because you want to stay an outcast. You are proud to be chinese first right? Tell me, do you think Bahasa Malaysia should be the national language? What is your responsibility as an Orang Malaysia towards the national language? Thank you.

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    • As a ‘non’, (as what has been labelled here), I agree that a single school system (SSS) should be the way to go. As a Malaysian, we should all be proud of our national language and is a disgrace when I come across other Malaysians who can’t speak BM. But being proud of our language doesn’t mean we sideline other languages. With the SSS, we can still learn Mandarin and Tamil as part of additional subjects. During my school days in a national school, we had extra classes that taught these languages. Placing emphasis on English in schools also does not mean we are not proud of BM. They are not mutually exclusive. Just because I can speak more than one language, means I am ashamed of BM. Having a good command of English is important as we transition from school to university (whether local or overseas). Teaching Maths and Science in English would make the student understand the terms easier when they move on to university.
      In this sense, JMD is right that if we were all to attend national schools, all of us will be able to appreciate and understand each other better and see past the colour. Most of us attended national schools (at least of my generation) and never experienced any race bullying. Teachers too, will be more open and accepting as they will have a wider variety of students to teach.

      JMD : Thank you Helena for the comment.

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    • The western did not need to understand Mandarin, because they have a vast pool of employees from Malaysia and Singapore. When the multinational semi-conductor and pumps manufacturers opened in China, do you know that the few core personnel are from here or Singapore? My brother is one of them. If they do not understand the language, do you think they will have this opportunity? Like my brother said, the remuneration is equal to his 2 working lives here.

      JMD : Our kids can learn this language in language classes. No need for vernacular schools as national schools in OneSchool system will provide elective subjects. In fact, I totally agree if we have chinese, tamil, french etc language classes for our children. Do you think everyone in this world that was employed by the western companies to deal directly with China went to vernacular schools? Thank you.

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      • “If they do not understand the language, do you think they will have this opportunity?”

        Eureka!! the chinese in china INSISTS that foreigners speak their language before being ALLOWED to set up business.

        So when is Malaysia implementing what the chinese are doing?

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    • Ting,
      Despite being a Malaysian, you are thinking like an overseas Chinese. Meaning that you are thinking like a citizen of the People’s Republic of China but lives in Malaysia. Always thinking how to do business with communist China but want to enjoy the benefit of a democratic Malaysia.

      Most of your concerns are not valid. You made a lot of sweeping statements like non-Bumis being insulted teased all the time in the national school ; the standard of English is better in a vernacular school ; doing business with China you must know Chinese ; you have better chance to study overseas if you study in a vernacular school. All of these concerns are not true.

      Most graduates of Chinese medium schools has poor command of English. I’ve a lot of friends from Chinese medium schools . They told me that they improved their command of English when they were studying overseas in English speaking countries not at the Chinese medium schools. Anyway, do you that Chinese companies that conduct international trade only speak Chinese? The international language is English. Do you think if you speak Mandarin to a Chinese , they won’t cheat you. Even the Chinese Singaporeans were cheated by the Chinese in business transactions.

      Like what JMD said, you don’t need to study at a Chinese medium school to learn Chinese and its cultures. In the USA where I studied, everyone irrespective of ethnic background, Spanish,French,German,Italian,Greek,Chinese,Japanese,Korean,African or Arabic all attend the English-medium school and they speak good English and not pidgin(pasar) English. But they can attend their language and cultural schools . They are very loyal Americans. Never a second that they wish to become citizens of the countries of their forefathers.

      But one thing is very clear. Vernacular schools do not contribute toward racial harmony in the country. Vernacular schools breeds racist citizens. If Chinese and Indians can have vernacular schools , why not ethnic Iban,Bajau, Kadazan-dusun, Jawa,Minang,Punjabi,Pakistani etc.? Why restrict to Mandarin and Tamil? Is is any wonder that no other countries in the world including the USA practises multiple medium of instruction except Malaysia? It is time-bomb for racial disharmony. It is a big mistake that need to be rectified before it is too late.

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    • Ting,

      You have a poor general knowledge, man. DS Najib had recently announced scholarships for all top achievers. Read up more and you won’t feel “sidelined all the time” and start blaming people. The MCA President gave a long list of what the Chinese have got already in his speech to the MCA General Assembly a few weeks ago. Read about it at the Kempen SSS blog – http://satusekolahuntuksemua.wordpress.com/2010/10/18/signs-of-the-times-chaos-and-uncertainties-what-went-wrong-the-mca-situation/ .

      That blog has all the arguments, the FAQs Sheet etc that will answer all your points.

      Those “top achievers scholarships” are in addition to the RM45,000 per year scholarships annually recurring, given to Chinese students. And all these are DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE CHINESE AS A COMMUNITY OWN VAST WEALTH AND HAVE THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF QUALIFIED PROFESSIONALS IN THE COUNTRY NOW. AND DESPITE THE FACT THAT CHINESE STUDENTS CAN GET SCHOLARSHIPS FROM MANY CHINESE MILLIONAIRE PHILANTHROPISTS.

      Do know that Chinese have so much money that UTAR rejected a RM30 million offer for scholarships etc from a successful Chinese Engineer businessman. One newspaper owner was said to be sending money to build schools in China. Read these in the Kempen SSS blog as well.

      Those Chinese philanthropists are not interested to give Malay students scholarships. Malay students have nowhere to go for scholarships except the Government. Now, why must you grudge the Malays? Be reasonable lah.

      If you persist in this kind of thinking and talk, then you are being unreasonable and you can’t blame people for calling you pendatangs. After all it’s a historical fact. But if you are reasonable and friendly, people would not use that word to you.

      You also do not know that Chinese do not pay the most tax. The Treasury/ Inland Revenue figures show that the Chinese pay 30% tax, Government-Linked Companies pay 40%, Malays and others including foreigners pay 30%.

      Again, you are poorly informed yet want to blame others. The United Examinations Certificate people have managed to find so many foreign universities accepting UEC for entry. Don’t understand you saying “If the non do not have vernacular school, then how are they going to get to universities overseas if they have a poor command of English or Chinese.” The rest of your arguments are hogwash.

      You don’t have the facts and you sound like the kind threatening to “relocate business overseas and Malaysians will lose their jobs in the thousands”. You have no clue about loyalty to the country, accuse others of racism when your thinking is racist, blame others of “muting” your voices. No wonder people call you and the likes of you as ungrateful pendatangs and some even ask you to “relocate overseas” – I’m using your own words, man. But those nons who are non-racist and non-ultra kiasu, respect and abide by the Constitution are welcome in this country.

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      • Dear Sura

        Great rebuttal.

        If these keturunan-pendatang-psyche is such, as displayed by ting, you can imagine the kind of brainwashing that the vernacular schools (VS) could have engaged in.

        Their national loyalty is questionable – is it to Malaysia where they make their living and riches, or to china which was the original objective of VS.

        This clearly shows that VS are rendered OBSOLETE by default, and worse, they pose a nationalistic hazard. The government should do a REVIEW of their curriculum and educational content to check whether they still induce psychological loyalties to PR of china.

        Better do it now before the faultlines amplify beyond repair. SSS is THE logical approach to nation-building.

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  16. He is just a young chiku( masih kelat- tak boleh nak di telan) lack of depth and understanding about his position as Ketua Pemuda. He is not a strong person to be in that position, I don’t think he will be long in that.
    He thought he can hide his weaknesses behind big words, but those words are just words- not big at all, he instead expose his weaknesses further.
    A wise man said ” man was designed for accomplishment, engineered for success, and endowed with the seeds of greatness.” But if you only want greatness without understanding the true meaning of it, you just engineer your own failure without accomplished anything.
    When the cabinet was constructed after the election and he was not in it, he should learned by then that he should be with his common folks and understand their real needs and worries, fight for them and be a defender for their interest. Then the seed of greatness will grow into a great tree.

    JMD : Thank you for the comments everyone. I am trying to get off work to go to PWTC. But I doubt that is possible with the amount of meetings I have right now. But, will not stop from trying. It has been ages since I last went to Umno General Assembly. Whatever news I get, I received it from the TV and other media. I was there for a little while last night. But did not stay long. Wish me luck today!

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  17. Saya setuju pendapat saudara mengenai pengunaan perkataan Arab. Dalam usaha kita mempertabatkan Bahasa Melayu, janganlah diguna istilah Arab. Ini akan buat orang keliru, lebih2 lagi yang bukan Melayu dan bumiputera bukan Islam (Keturunan Siam yang ramai di Utara Semenanjung , Orang Asli dan di Sabah & Sarawak). Kalau dah tak ada perkataan Melayu yang sesuai, ambillah dari bahasa Indonesia @ China @ India @ Siam @ Iban @ Dayak @ Filipina, etc. Baru la jadi satu Malaysia. Arab terlalu jauh dengan kita.

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  18. I agree with you on ‘One School For All’. But I agree with KJ that UMNO has to reach out to others and not be limited to Malay Unity.

    I also agree that DEB has done a lot of good. But to this day, the share thing is still continuing. A large chunk of Petronas Chemical and MHB shares has been reserve for Bumi investors by MITI. Who are these BUMI investors ?. Is it PNB, which will benefit the Malay as a whole or is it still some UMNO crony. You see, because of this share think, the whole tempayan DEB is destroyed.

    There is also contradiction in your argument. While you want ‘One School For All’, you also insist on UMNO, MCA & MIC to continue to fight for their own communities interest. Isn’t this a contradiction.

    JMD : Yes, everyone is allowed to be what they are. In school, everyone can be identified with who they are. They learn about themselves at home or in culture class (if there is one) in national school. But when they come together in class, they learn to tolerate on any of their differences. Better still, they accept one another. You cannot imagine the good feelings I had when I interact with my friends of all races in national schools (primary and secondary). We learn to accommodate especially in the primary schools. We increase our understanding in secondary schools. Same with politics. We can be who we are at our party levels. You always find ways to improve the fate of your community. In Barisan Nasional level, you learn to accommodate each other.

    But I foresee that if we start with OneSchool now, race based party will disappear in the future.

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  19. “How sad that he cannot rebuke those young Malays..” – Khairy point is not whether he can or he can’t rebuke those young Malays, he was merely tried to remind his comrade that there is such uneasy perception among the young Malays towards NEP.

    (JMD : His position as Ketua Pemuda is to disseminate the truth about the NEP. What the young people had told hinm are not the wholly truths about the NEP (it being only for the rich). He should made corrective measures in educating their perception instead of using it as a justification to tell audience like me that the NEP is only for the rich. I resent that. NEP is certainly not as narrow as that. If the young people thinks NEP is elitist, then KJ must change that perception. Is he not from Umno? He is taking the easy way out).

    “Instead, he had used the raw, unprocessed thinking of those young ones (who really should have been educated further by Umno Youth) as the justification to condemn the NEP further.” – Khairty is talking about what should be the right approach and put forward his view, could it be you are one that too obsesses with NEP?

    (JMD : If by saying that I am trying to tell readers here that NEP is much more than shares and 30% equity target is deemed as being obsess with the NEP, then the guilty is all mine. Truth is, NEP is not all about those two things. Do you not agree? KJ, through his speech think it is. The right approach is to tackle the abuse of the NEP; the act of using position to get benefits etc. The right approach is also to tell these youths that the NEP is not all about getting pink forms. Is he saying that the youths will only be happy if they get pink forms? The fact is, the youths should be happy they get accessible education and opportunities to better their lives. Did KJ do that? He did not indicated this in this speech. Thus my criticism).

    “I am confused with Khairy’s definition of meritocracy. It contradicts itself. It is certainly not the same with the meritocracy concept which Lim Kit Siang proposes” – I think this is normal, there is no true meritocracy, it is an ideal, therefore everyone can come up with their version of meritocracy, as long as the focal point is on merits. And he is thoughtful enough to add in ”needs” as well. Bravo.

    (JMD : Thank you for clarifying this. Are you KJ’s mouthpiece? If this is his definition of meritocracy, then it is nor different with the affirmative actions of the NEP. NEP had identified and helped bright students and potential malay businessmen all these years. Hence his promotion of this type of meritocracy is redundant).

    “So there is nothing to be afraid of.” – Writing blog allow one total freedom to freely promote, pronounce and propose. When back to reality and facing life and people, there is everything to be afraid of.

    (JMD : Hence, we have a Ketua Pemuda who is quite timid)

    “he recognised the barriers but dared not say any viable solution for these problems.” – He did. He mentioned “shared aspiration amongst all races.” Khairy knows very well to put everyone together but without a shared aspiration will never solve the problem. He emphasizes substance, not form.

    (JMD : Well if even the 1Malaysia concept is not clear to all people in Malaysia, how can everyone have shared inspiration? What is his blueprint in order to get everyone have shared inspiration? What are the action plans? He is just saying it because it sounds nice but he has no idea how everyone here can achieve it. That is why he is just all form and rhetoric. I am surprised you see it differently. But, to each his own I guess)

    “How can Malaysians understand the feelings of one another if they live in a segregated society?” – It depends on what sort of feelings you expect Malaysian to understand.

    (JMD : Do you think the levels of understanding of one another among the races in this country is high? KJ perceives that the current underlying racial sentiments among the races in this country is at an all time high does he? Please get him to sort out an answer for this so that he can be well equipped to handle the challenges of being a good political leader. Only then he can begin to tackle the issues of multiple education streams we have here in Malaysia right now)

    “the speech was commendable.” – At least there is something we can agree on.

    (JMD : I am dead sure you would use this tiniest complimentary I gave to alleviate his speech and make you feel good. Again, it could be a bitter pill to swallow. But he must first honestly reflect what he had done in the last 9 years in order to come to his senses and give us the best leadership quality that he could ever made. So far, he had not done that yet. That is why he seems floundering. Neither here nor there.)

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    • First of all, thanks for the reply. I am not Khairy, so I can’t answer on his behalf on what you had raised, I penned purely from my own perspective after reading your post. Only one point, afraid of peoples is not timid; it is the rare quality that should be possessed by all leaders.

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      • Hua Yong,

        Having stated my disappointment on your reply to my reply earlier on, I looked for and tried to read in detail your other comments in this post. You appear to be doing the same thing above.

        You put in your views, your interpretations, on what Khairy meant in his speech and on JMD’s interpretations. JMD put in his rebuttals to your comments. Then you came in simply saying, “I am not Khairy, so I can’t answer on his behalf on what you had raised”.

        Come on brader, you made interpretations on what he said, in the first place. You can’t now say you are not Khairy and can’t answer on his behalf when your statements are being rebutted.

        Let’s have a meaningful discussion like some one has said earlier. Doing what you did is like throwing stones and hiding your hand. No good lor. Like wanting never to lose, wanting to win always. It’s called being kiasu (also means not wanting to be left out), isn’t it? If you are busy and can’t answer now, say so. Or just keep quiet until you can.

        I thought of giving my views also to your points above. But no point. You have shown your colours. You want only views that are the same as yours. Mana boleh.

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  20. Dear Khairy,
    Honest and upfront, you are the best UMNO youth head ever and your maturity and sense of leadership put shame to all your predecessors who siok sendiri with wild cowboy applauses hearing stupid racial rhetorics which de-value Malaysia Inc. for decades.Those cowboys may had scored points for themselves then but the whole country suffered.Really,it amazed all of us why it took so long for Umno to shake off its arrogance until you came along. Stand firmly on your own 2 feet young man and the whole nation is behind you if you learn to humbly lead the rakyat,not warlording the rakyat especially the minority which every religion demands the majority defends the minority.You are on track to building your own respect and earn it justly.I look forward to the day when you become PM to lead our country to greater height when all of us are one.Good luck and let us be a proud Malaysian again.

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    • Let me tell readers here a few points why they should not bother about what this lee fellow says (I’m not even bothered about addressing Khairy at all):

      1. Khairy is supposed to represent the Malays. Since has spoken a lot that made the Chinese like lee here extremely pleased with him, it only shows that he is not worth two cents as a Malay leader and, ipso facto, as a Malaysian leader.

      2. This lee fellow calling Khairy’s predecessors “siok sendiri with wild cowboy applauses hearing stupid racial rhetorics which de-value Malaysia Inc” has no clue about what an UMNO Youth Leader is expected to do. He probably doesn’t also know what MCA Youth Leader is expected to do, or maybe he knows and is pleased, while basking in glory finding that the UMNO Youth Leader is also supporting the MCA Youth Leader in making their demands when he should be furthering UMNO’s / Malay interests.

      3. “the whole nation is behind you”, the lee fellow says. See how glib this man is? How callous are his words? “the whole nation” says he, when it is only him and his kind. Not even the vast majority of UMNO members. Now it’s time for me to call him stupid, like he has used insulting words above. He must be so stupid as not to realize why, despite being UMNO Youth Leader, his idol Khairy was not appointed to any post or given any official position.

      I can go on and on. But suffice to say that this lee fellow should apply to join UMNO, set up multifarious phantom UMNO branches and non-existent members like ex-MCA President said were done by the team who won the March MCA party elections. Then lee should produce thousands of delegates at UMNO party elections to get Khairy become UMNO President and consequently Prime Minister! Damn stupid lee.

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      • He never had any job anyway. Not even under his pa in law Pak Lah. Not even when he was said to have an office in the 4th Floor of PM’s Office Complex in Putrajaya.

        But for money politics, which he was found guilty of just before the party elections, he would not have even the KP post. He had only 403 votes – what, not even half of the delegates was it?

        Some people said his KP speech at Perhimpunan Agung was not in tandem with UMNO sentiments in general. Why the hell is he still there I don’t know. This young man appears tak ada muka, tak tahu malu, tak rasa apa not given any job or post by Najib, unlike past KPs. He should have studied in Japan and would have known harakiri.

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  21. Hello,

    I would appreciate it if you would publish this entry.

    I would like to highlight an issue that is pressing, I believe to all Malaysians.

    I find Terence Fernandez, who writes the Down 2 Earth column of The Sun newspaper, to be a hate monger.

    Read his column today, Oct 22 2010, it’s titled ‘When Silence Is Not Golden’.

    Read his column and you’ll find that at the end of it all, he signs off with the following:

    TERENCE had covered the Umno General Assembly many years ago where he was reminded of his ethnic background.

    What is he trying to do?

    Increase hatred?

    I opine that action should be taken against Terence Fernandez. From his writing, he appears to be a Racist masquerading as a Malaysian.

    Terence Fernandez, You’re insincere

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  22. @Ting: Unfortunately in my experience those that come out from vernacular schools speak very very very poor English. And they speak almost non-existent Bahasa Malaysia. Which in turn makes communicating with them very very very difficult because of the lack of common language😦

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  23. I urge you and other Bloggers to seriously consider this:

    Stand in the next General Elections as Independent Candidates.

    I will vote for you or any sincere, brave and impartial Blogger who contests in my Constituency.

    I’m sure many Malaysians will agree with my suggestion

    I no longer have any confidence in both Barisan Nasional and Pakatan Rakyat.

    Please, stand up for the people.

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  24. To the pendatangs, blame the British for bringing u guys here.

    For the pendatangs who are still not grateful, u can pack your bags and get lost.

    For all the Malays who are defending this, u all can get lost also. My tok neneks fought hard for this country, the Tunku A Rahman bongers easily gave it away in the name of jus soli crap. What a stoopid founding father?

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    • Keep this up and there wont be any issues at all ensuring you guys get your 30% discount for housing. Thing is though, then there wont be anyone else left – so effectively – everyone gets 30%…how are you going to deal with that? Ever thought that far? I don’t think so.

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    • Dear Mr Ali Rooster,

      Please have respect for TAR. Without him, perhaps we still under penjajah. Oh wait is that good idea? NOOO!!..

      Jus soli or free citizenship or whatever you called it. I said it before and will say it again. Thank you for your forefather’s grace. Now then, because of your forefather’s grace, my forefathers worked and toiled for this country…paid his taxes and contributed to the expansion of the economy.

      So shall we now, the current generation ..move on see how we can build a better Malaysia for our future generations and not just look back to the past with hate.

      Thank you.

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      • Haiyaya happyinsect

        “my forefathers worked and toiled for this country…paid his taxes and contributed to the expansion of the economy” –

        You are describing the current FOREIGN WORKERS, dearie. They will pack their bags and return to their country of origin once their work contract ends.

        “So shall we now, the current generation ..move on see how we can build a better Malaysia for our future generations and not just look back to the past with hate.”

        Wow!! such big words – the nons must first look to the present and future without suspicions; and hold hands to support the Satu Sekolah untuk Semua, uphold the Malaysian Constitution and obey the Rukun Negara.

        They must also accept that the official religion is Islam and the national language is Bahasa Melayu.

        As simple as ABC, isn’t it?

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        • Dear Ray,

          Just put a sock in it with your analogies. Its just terrible la…first 99% then adopted..now foreign worker..I bet you must a high ranking PERKASA member..

          What do you mean foreign worker..are you implying I am a foreign worker? Are you questioning my contribution to this country? Wonder why a foreign worker like me would chose Malaysia..when so many other alternatives. Could it be for the superb living conditions, quality of life here? Jeeze I must have been silly…

          My firm engage bumis and non bumi alike. So if I am a foreign worker, so the bumis who work for me is a worker…for foreign worker..? “This twisted pseudo intellect” coming to bite you.

          So, if I am a foreign worker, why you think I want hire bumis? If I am, might as well hire all foreign workers la, since the money will flow back to the country I “belong”?For qouta? Doesnt apply. I hire them because they are capable to do such work. Do I pay them crappy salary? You just have to ask my bumi staff then. I guess since you imply I am not welcome here..I probably have to fire them. Too bad la..for their families..perhaps I’ll ask them to go and work for proper boss then, not some foreign worker.

          Tsk tsk tsk.. yes at least we can see 1 thing in common 1 school is the way to go. But remember in life nothing is set in stone. We evolve, we adapt and we change. The constitution is a living law. Otherwise, no need for provision for amendment.

          Kolot..

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          • Hahahaha

            lalatceria, why ramble on and on …

            My contention is simply this – being a citizen is much more than just going around claiming “my forefathers worked and toiled for this country…paid his taxes and contributed to the expansion of the economy”.

            As simple as 123. Jangan marah …

            P.S. TQ for reusing my words “twisted pseudo intellect” and “tsk tsk tsk” – they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. heh heh

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            • Dear Sinar,

              Indeed..just as how you convinently side- stepped my points..its easier that way isnt it…

              Its ok..I accept it..as my dad used to teach me “if you got nothing good to say..better just keep quiet”.

              Its all cool bro..as long as we can agree to disagree, I believe that is the whole purpose of this blog, to get Malaysians from all races to put forth their views.

              To you, we, the “nons” did nothing for this nation..that is your belief which you are well entitled to hold. But remember, it cuts both ways. We can hold otherwise.

              As you correctly pointed somewhere in this thread..one man’s meat is another man’s poison..

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              • Hey lalatceria

                Just what are your points really? I may be suffering from amnesia since I really can’t remember your pertinent POINTS.

                And true, you should have LIVED your dad’s advice “if you got nothing good to say..better just keep quiet”. ssshhh to you.

                I never said the nons did nothing for this nation – so you better don’t put words in my mouth. What I resent is the fact that the nons keep harping on the taxes they pay, as if that is all that is required of citizens.

                Citizenship carries with it loyalty to Malaysia, obeying the constitution and much more.

                The vernacular schools MAY be indoctrinating allegiance and loyalty to foreign countries which is definitely ANTI-Malaysia.

                See, your capacity to understand is rather shallow. What the debate was all about is this incessant challenging of the provisions protected in the constitution.

                The social contract is RACIAL but not racist. The special position which sees its implementation in the NEP and the Bumi discounts are being mischieviously portrayed as anti-nons – which is seditious in nature.

                Now if article 153 can be challenged, so can the free citizenships that was given to the nons.

                If the citizenships for the nons is permanent, why can’t the special position be permanent too?

                P.S. you should read up on the Chinese Exclusion Act. I presume you can do that on your own steam OR do I have to provide you with the link? Do read up, its good education for you, lalatceria. I’m grateful for the ‘Sinar’ address – feels good to bring on the light, the cheer and the hope.

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  25. do you know that the malays are most humble, polite, acceptable, good, kind people on earth if not for all these wow can u imagine……………

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  26. Dear Ray,

    This shall be my last retort to your ramblings.

    Perhaps you need to see a doctor in respect of your amnesia..you do seem to suffer from selective memory syndrome. If you dont have the money..let me know I’ll sponsor.(since I belong to the 99% rich Chinese..got RM no where to spend). Just kidding..

    Perhaps you dont have to anwer or pretend to anwer.. its you prerogative. As an intelectual person (as claimed by you) you do seem to ahem..approbate and reprobate points as and when you fancy. But then who am I, the low capacity to understand to question the almighty Ray.

    You resent the FACT that the Chinese keep harping on the taxes they paid? Numero uno. Its a FACT that the non pays taxes (last I checked mine not to bragI paid quite alot )… So where did the tax money went to? Perhaps your superior intellect could enlighten us? Its not about taxes only..my friend (can I call you that..since we have so many run ins..you hold a special place). Its about development. If you read my post, I said other than taxes, the nons have a hand in developing this country. Otherwise you wont have all the Chinese & Indian tycoons. Companies like Genting, YTL, Maxis, Public Bank..etc provide millions of jobs to everyone…. if that is not part of developing the country..you tell me what is? Your foreign worker illustration doesnt hold water..to me it is the biggest insult ever (and you have thrown a few at me). My Firm employs all classes of people and I practice meritocracy. So imagine, if I tell my bumi workers “Sorry Cik..sebab boss orang cina, company orang cina..you punya increment and bonus kurang daripada Ah Moi walaupun pencapaian anda lebih bagus” how do you think the Cik will feel? I employ bumis because they are good at what they do. I pay them well (contrary to your beliefs)

    You said being a citizen is being loyal to Malaysia. So, why am I here today..if I am not loyal. Why do I have to face this restriction, quotas when I do business? I can easily migrate if I choose to. But why do I stay? Because ..this is OUR country my friend..not your.. not mine. I stay because I believe I can give something back to this country, be it job opportunities, new projects, taxes (yes again taxes..). I am giving back to this country (by economic means) the only way I can. Sad you see that I am just a migrant worker…

    Further, you say uphold the Constitution, but you side stepped the point that every Article of the Constitution of Malaysia is capable of amendments or repealed. So you say uphold the Constitution, but the Constitution is not set in stone. Upholding it doesnt mean you can’t question it when it is archaic or absolete. If so, then the Constitution will remain the very same manner as drafted by our forefathers, uncapable of amendments. Our very own Constitution has been repealed and amended numerous times to relect the change of times. Even if you said uphold the Constitution, where does it says that the bumi enjoy 7% housing discounts. If you can show me, I’ll eat my shorts.

    But the reality is that the discount is an extention of Article 153. It is a measure to assist the bumis to own property, an incentive for them. But the principle behind Article 153 (my shallow intellect here kicking in) is for assisting the bumis to catch with the non post Merdeka. So, assuming one day the bumis (perhaps 2020) do catch up? Is Article 153 relevant anymore? Lets trades places..say the nons are bumis and bumi are non. Now you have bumi controlling a large chunk of the economic pie. Will you still insist of the quotas and discounts? That is why in all my threads, to me the correct formula is based on the needs. Assistance should be given to those who needs it. Not by virtue of your skin colour. Like my example of abolishing 7% discount in return 7% converted to zakat on certain properties. You seem to suffer from selective amnesia on this point.Why not, assuming the zakat fund can only be accessed to bumi-muslim only.

    My friend, you seemed well educated..if such an idea doesnt strike you as fair, I dont know how I can convience you otherwise. And so much on your “Chinese Exclusion Act”. Dont see the relevance of an Act that has been REPEALED. The American knew that it was wrong..so the coolies were given citizenship. Unless you are advocating a similiar Act in Malaysia, it is most unfortunateI may have read you wrong. Today, previous slaves and coolies enjoy the same rights as everyone in America.

    Last but not least, it is a pleasure having this joust. Till next time, Sinar ( I am sure we will cross swords again)

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    • Heh heh

      This latest retort of yours does not seem to be a solo effort. I do wonder who helped edit your English. It does seem MORE refined than your previous style. Please extend my appreciation to your editor.

      Lalatceria offers, “If you dont have the money..let me know I’ll sponsor” – oooohhh you are too kind. I have to REJECT your offer coz I have doubts whether it’s earned the HALAL way. You see, for me, the way you make money is more important than how MUCH you make.

      #1 – “Its a FACT that the non pays taxes (last I checked mine not to bragI paid quite alot )” – How much was it? RM200 – yo, ‘quite a lot’ is very subjective. It is also a fact that the nons are not the ONLY ones paying taxes. See, lalatceria is not providing facts and figures, just making sweeping statements and also ‘masuk bakul angkat sendiri’.

      #2- “the nons have a hand in developing this country” – so do the millions of foreign workers. After that, they pack up and ‘balik negeri’, they do not IMPOSE their alien culture upon the landlords. Or worse still DEMAND all sorts of accommodative requirements at the expense of the gracious hosts.

      #3 – “Genting, YTL, Maxis, Public Bank..etc provide millions of jobs to everyone” – yeah such altruistic leanings. These mega firms exploit the peaceful situation in Tanah Melayu to reap wealth and riches – with the tacit permission of the bumiputras. And you know what, the terrible side effects of these development such as pollution, depletion of the ozone layer, climatic changes, in short, the endangerment of the environment is suffered by ALL, not just by the development KINGS.

      #4 – “you punya increment and bonus kurang daripada Ah Moi walaupun pencapaian anda lebih bagus” – There are many instances where Ah Moi and Ah Kow were given promotions even though Ali and Aminah are better qualified – I am one living example. The clannish tendencies of the chinese ensure that “I scratch your back and you scratch mine” is alive and well, and you better not deny this. Numerous employment advertisements can attest to this fact. Some of these chinese advertisers even JUSTIFY that this practice of theirs is in response to the “unfair” implementation of the NEP, bumi discounts, the 30% equity etc etc. Such racist crap!

      #5 – “So, why am I here today..if I am not loyal. Why do I have to face this restriction, quotas when I do business? I can easily migrate if I choose to. But why do I stay?” – The answer is simple really. You and your kind are having a whale of a time, enjoying the peace and uninterrupted exploitations of this blessed land, where you are FREE to make millions, where despite the special status of the bumiputras and its implementation, you are allowed access to the natural resources to become millionaires. And instead of being grateful, you and your kind are still DEMANDING more. Worse, you and your kind turned PETTY over the pittance of government assistance offered to the needy. Shameful really. The quotas and ‘restrictions’ are in exchange for you and your kind’s free citizenships. Till today the gracious landlords are still suffering the price in terms of tolerating the contradictory customs and habits practised by you and your kind. Are you sure you can EASILY migrate? We remain unconvinced.

      #6 – “Even if you said uphold the Constitution, where does it says that the bumi enjoy 7% housing discounts. If you can show me, I’ll eat my shorts”. – Yucks, make sure the your shorts is thoroughly disinfected and truly edible. Article 153 states, “the Yang di-Pertuan Agong shall exercise his functions under this Constitution and federal law in such manner as may be necessary to safeguard the special provision of the Malays and natives of any of the States of Sabah and Sarawak and to ensure the reservation for Malays and natives of any of the States of Sabah and Sarawak of such proportion as he may deem reasonable of positions in the public service (other than the public service of a State) and of scholarships, exhibitions and other similar educational or training privileges or special facilities given or accorded by the Federal Government and, when any permit or licence for the operation of any trade or business is required by federal law, then, subject to the provisions of that law and this Article, of such permits and licences”.

      #7 – “So, assuming one day the bumis (perhaps 2020) do catch up? Is Article 153 relevant anymore?” – Aha, see this sneaky proposition! This is the twisted pseudo intellect I was referring to. If the nons are granted citizenships by the millions which is permanent, why oh why, should the article 153 be rendered obsolete by 2020???. The Special Positon of the Malays, and of the Bumiputeras of Sabah and Sarawak when they joined Malaysia, was there “since day one” and was recognised by the British since the time of Queen Victoria. It was dug from Hansards, the Parliamentary records of Britain. The Malays had always enjoyed a special position even from the start of British colonisation. This special position was already affirmed by the British in their earlier treaties with the Malay rulers. This culminated in the recognition of the said special position in clause 19(1) (d) of the Federation of Malaya Agreement 1948. See, this lalatceria fella shows himself to be truly GREEDY which is their kiasu trademark. They expect to be citizens forever but they want the special position to have an EXPIRY date?? Just how rapacious can anyone be?

      #8 – “so the coolies were given citizenship. Unless you are advocating a similiar Act in Malaysia, it is most unfortunateI may have read you wrong. Today, previous slaves and coolies enjoy the same rights as everyone in America” – Well not before the resented chinese were killed in the riots and thousand others repatriated. Quote from the Chinese Exclusion Act 1882, “Whereas, in the opinion of the Government of the United States the coming of Chinese laborers to this country endangers the good order of certain localities within the territory”. Yeah, TODAY they have lost their PIGTAILS, they also speak America’s national language, some more with the American twang, adopt an AMERICAN name to their surnames, go to public schools like everyone else, never enjoyed vernacular schools and fearful of demanding one (unlike in Malaysia). They also go to church, eat burgers, wear jeans, celebrate halloween and Thanksgiving. In short they ADAPT and fit into the HOST culture instead of clinging on to everything RPC.

      P.S. So lalatceria, how does your shorts taste like, eh? I’m sure it has lots of fibre. Prepare to get yourself an indigestion. Happy extended chewing …

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      • Bravo ray. Excellent rebuttal. Neatly argued, solid facts and quotations. Including the Chinese Exclusion Act 1882 of the USA.

        These should drum into the Malaysian Chinese minds that they should be thankful for being in this country, getting citizenship for free, able to make money, competing in a non-level playing field. In the US they would generally be reduced to doing restaurants, grocery stores, running gambling and other vice dens, operating secret societies, thugs and gangsters rackets in the Chinatowns of the big towns.

        Yet in this country they say anything they please. Wanna amend the Bumi housing discount, dare even to ask the Bumi equity target be abolished, yet marah those who react by asking that their citizenship right be also abolished.

        We must not allow them to talk and do as they please. They need to respect and live by the Constitution of the country fully. We need to continue pointing out to them the facts of history. We must ask the Ministry of Education to include knowledge on the Constitution, on loyalty, nationalism and patriotism when finalising the new History syllabus for schools in 2013, when History becomes compulsory for all school children.

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        • Yes ray you got the right facts. they should be thankful living in this peaceful country. its the British who brought them and during that time there are license opium and toddy shop and its different now there are giving the nation a problem demanding this and that. put a stop to all these. oop i know my English poor but i just want to join in. how is it ?

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  27. Dear Ray,

    Not a retort nor a reply. You stated your case and I’ve stated mine (no editor involved).
    Just a note of thanks for your reply. I have come to accept that sometimes in life, there is no way to make one understand one’s notion- my ideas on you or vice versa.
    Suffice to say, the knowledge or experiance that I gained here is immesurable. With that, I shall keep my promise not to retort nor reply.

    Once again thanks and live well.

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  28. Talented Malays will be supported and assisted. The “untalented” Malays will be left in the drain…That’s 1 Malaysia Khairy’s version! Poooddah….

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