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The Umno Youth Forum at DBP

I was honoured to be invited by the producers of ‘Hujah’ of TV9 last night.

The hall in DBP was packed to the walls. I arrived at 8.45pm and several minutes later, Datuk Mukhriz and Khairy Jamaluddin appeared in front of the hall.

Both shook hands with the audience while we waited for the arrival of Datuk Seri Khir Toyo.

Datuk Mukhriz went out of the way to shake hands with half of the people in the hall. Precisely at 9pm, the third candidate came and immediately we started to feel the great anticipation coming from audience. Those who came were mostly from the Umno Youth wing. Several faces that I saw will attend the Umno Assembly as delegates this March.

Professor Agus was his chirpy self. I could see that he has the potential to steal the limelight later on (which he did, much to the amusement of the audience).

The atmosphere on the stage was calm and friendly. A few banters and jokes were traded among themselves. During one of the commercial breaks, Datuk Mukhriz quipped that if he had not been powdered up, his bald pate will reflect too much light!

As the forum progressed, there was a clear indication from the audience on who is their favourite candidate. From my point of view (I was lucky to be seated at the front), Datuk Seri Khir Toyo was the one with enough experience to lift the audience.

Most of what he said struck home. His views on the widening gap in quality of life among the many strata of Malaysians were well received by those in the hall.

Each candidate tried their best to put forth their arguments in their own way. Datuk Seri Khir Toyo, with his experience, drove his point much faster than the other two. Hence, he could convey much of his thoughts quickly under the time constraints.

Datuk Mukhriz stresses too much on his ‘mukadimah’ that after a few moments, Professor Agus had to cut short his arguments to proceed with the next line of questioning. Which is a shame actually.

For instance, the PPMSI issue could have been settled by saying, ‘Jika Bangsa sudah maju, dengan mudah kita akan dan boleh mendaulatkan Bahasa!’ But I am speaking in hindsight. It is unfair to impose this on any one of them.

Commercial breaks should be cut down to enable more time for the panelists to exert their opinions. Hopefully next week, the vice president candidates will have more time to put forth their views.

Khairy on the other hand was trying so hard to air his views. Quiet a respectable attitude indeed. But he was cutting in too frequently when others were talking. Plus, he was just following up on the words that were spoken earlier by the others.

As an analogy, I would say that he was the extra cream that topped the cake. However, there were a couple of moments that made him stood out from the rest.

At the end of the forum, the audience was jubilant. Kudos to all three candidates for the great camaraderie shown between them. It was indeed, a forum held for a band of brothers.

Datuk Seri Khir Toyo had his own ‘militant’ followers shouting his name for good 15 minutes after the forum ended. Khairy too had his own men with him. Datuk Rozabil was busy acting like a mother hen protecting her chicks. Datuk Mukhriz came alone I think. No notable people were seen surrounding him. The simple dinner of nasi lemak, karipap and kuih koci ended the night on a high note🙂

Thank you again to the producers of Hujah. A job well done.

Update : For more indepth analysis of the forum last night, please read here, here, here and here. For pictures, please click here.

42 thoughts on “The Umno Youth Forum at DBP

  1. salam bro jmd,

    IN MY OPINION, MUKHRIZ WAS QUITE CALM EVEN THOUGH AT START HE WAS A BIT NERVOUS, KJ WAS ACTING LIKE HE IS TOO GOOD TO BE THERE, KHIR WAS GOOD (WHAT DO U EXCPECT EX MB MAA..)

    KHIR IS EXPERIENCED, KJ IS DEPUTY KP WHILE MUKHRIZ IS JUAT AN EXCO…BUT I BELIEVE, THAT MUKHRIZ CAN LEAD THE PEMUDA UMNO TO DIFFERENT LEVEL, I AM NOT SAYING BASE ON YESTERDAY’S HUJAH OK, I MEAN ON THE OVERALL PICTURE…MUKHRIZ CAN REALLY BRING SOMETHING FRESH IN TO THE PEMUDA BLOOD…

    KJ, WHAT CAN I SAY ABOUT HIM, LU SENDIRI MAU INGAT LA BRO..

    KHIR TOYO, JADI MT DAH LA DATO…

    SORRY JMD, THAT IS MY PERSONAL OPINION…I LIKE YOUR ARTICLE..

    JMD : Thank you Parpukari. I can relate to your views.

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  2. hi there. i enjoyed the ‘debate’. thought KJ looked really tired. i think KJ really seriously miscalculated if he was behind “projek runtuhkan khir toyo sbg MB Sel melalui kempen media”. if khir was still mB, he would be too busy to campaign for youth chief…..that was what he said before March 8 anyway…that he was not interested in the Youth Chief post….

    JMD : As always, thanks Jed for the perspective🙂

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  3. I read a little of the link above, but I came to my conclusion much earlier. Fine, Khairi and Khir can explain all they want to Pemuda members but at the end of the day, its the voters who makes things count and the general perception is poor for the above said two.
    Maybe Mukriz may have some “skeletons”, but compared to the others, quite minimal. 4th floor and a defeat. Thats huge. Too huge to cover in the next elections. Pemuda must be united not in pieces as potrayed by the supporters at the “HUJAH”.
    If this is PEMUDA, I shudder to imagine the outcome of the next elections

    JMD : Thank you for the comment. Hopefully the delegates will take heed from what you had just written.

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  4. hi,

    kalau nak dicompare, KT r the best la, still ingat Kt turun padang melawat dump-site haram in his baju melayu after his raya open-house, mase tue still baru lagi jadi MB. nampakla bersungguh jugak…tapi tue org dok kate, manusia ney boley berubah sekelip mata… paling takle lupa kT join kJ dok “celupar” kat TDM, the one yg lantik die jadi MB.

    kj panggil TDM beruk.
    Musyiddin yassin kate meluat with tdm
    nazri.. ??? tayah la nak cakap….

    so my vote go to mukriz… even rase mukriz ney bukan jenis “sharp thinkin”.. public speaking pon tak baguih… tapi better vote him sebab skills tue sume boleyy di-upgradekan… tapi kalau attitude problem macam sombong, kurang ajar, tak reti nak hormat orang tua, lupa daratan, pada pendapat saya baik lupakan sajaaaaa…

    Orang melayu nie janganla mudah lupa sngatt… or buat2 lupa….

    pilihla yang bersih attitude COZ banyak BEZAnyaaa….

    TQ

    JMD : Terima kasih saudari.

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  5. Salam JMD,

    Lama tak komen in here but i guess you tau i never miss any of your article…

    Last night i wish so hard that biar la MM start of superbly but then like you said la “Datuk Mukhriz stresses too much on his ‘mukadimah’ that after a few moments, Professor Agus had to cut short his arguments to proceed with the next line of questioning. Which is a shame actually.”

    I nearly turn off the tv but i kept on watching and “listening” to all their answers.. Oh well JMD, like i’ve said eleswhere; my heart wants MM, my logic says KJ/KT, publically i want all 3..

    Now i am in midst of digesting my heart and head…Kena timbang betul2, this is harapan UMNO future.. Nanti i dah dapat jawapan i will let you know…

    One thing i know for sure, Liverpool got my 100% undivided attention & support.. (urggghhhhh dah liverpool nyer 3rd eye tengah injured!!!!)

    JMD : Thank you for the comment. Never let your comrades walk alone. Stick to your choice. YNWA!🙂

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  6. JMD,

    I thought KJ was articulate, didnt try to be a hero like KT, and stayed on the issues better. he looked sober and composed. Pus he didnt attack the party like the others.

    JMD : Thank you for the comments. KJ did not attack the party. Did the others attacked Umno? Both were defending policies that Umno is closely associating itself with such as PPMSI, ISA and the monarchy.

    You must have mistaken the term ‘criticise’ for ‘attack’. I think the ability to comprehend and understand the problems facing the party and saying it to the public is a laudable attitude indeed.

    We all had criticised Umno. Even Umno members attacked Umno though blogs before and after 2008 general elections.

    But now, at least people will know that there are people within the echelon of Umno Youth that had identified the weaknesses and will commit themselves to improve it. A highly responsible trait rather than being in denial all the time.

    I guess when you said he looked sober, I reckon the other two looked like a drunkard?🙂 I jest. have a goodnight everyone!

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  7. Only got to view snippets of the debate, so I didn’t really see the whole thing. But it did leave me with the impression that none of the three have got what it takes… although Mukhriz would be the more suitable amongst the three… since he’s the cleanest.

    When’s this gonna be on YouTube?

    JMD : Thank you for the comment. I believe you can watch it at http://www.tv9.com.my

    But you need to register first and click on the relevant episode.

    Thank you

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  8. Yes I agreed that KT has the advantage, his experience of up and down in politic gives him the edge. He was not born in silver spoon. The hard life that he experienced on his early life at least gave him a bit leads in this race. His philosophy, ” I like crisis because crisis gives me opportunity…” going well with the youth members. MM was also not bad , has some bright ideas and brave to storm the water, but KT will be chosen this coming March. KJ is clever but lack of experience and not to forget the baggage he carries.

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  9. JMD,

    Was it just me or was Khairy making faces when the other 2 was speaking?

    Neways, to tell you the truth I’m disapointed that all 3 candidates still uphold the “Ketuanan Melayu” concept. Please for God’s sake let it drop. I tell you we are not going to make any new friends no matter how much we construe the term. But I guess UMNO will always be UMNO.

    Although one thing I do like is that, all 3 of them agreed the NEP has to be reviewed.

    JMD : Hopefully you can help everyone by conveying the true meaning of this Ketuanan Melayu concept. A concept that was tarnished by Pakatan Rakyat just for the sake of their political expediency. Thank you.

    https://jebatmustdie.wordpress.com/2008/12/07/the-hitchhikers-guide-to-ketuanan-melayu

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  10. Let see if the winner have a big enough heart to listen and work together with the other 2 losers. Make a common declaration that nobody be given special treatment and privileges to take a ride on the next KP just because they support him. Can they close rank after this?

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  11. JMD,

    Sober as in not getting too excited and playing populist sentiments prematurely kot?

    JMD : Yes of course. That is why I said – I jest. I am not too sure about him not playing populist sentiments though. Everyone did. It is imperative to know which populist approach to make, and which to drop against the sophisticated demands of Umno Youth and Malaysians in general. Ultimately, one has to develop the best strategy to steer Malaysia out of this quagmire. Thank you.

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  12. Dear JMD,
    The best will be the one to participate n representing the future of the malays comunity which was left behind, actually noone is looking after the malays well. There are some ~cakap tak serupa bikin~ atitude.
    To my opinion I see an outstanding ideas coming from DM but with lack of experience, anyway the forum is the best way to expose. Organise more forum in future.
    It s very interesting.

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  13. Salam JMD,

    Since u mentioned seated in the front row…yeah i guess i’m one of those who did study the faces there (from the link) , guessing which one is JMD !🙂🙂

    Really, did the event serve any purpose ? Before coming to the event, all three must have practised a lot, depan supporter, depan cermin, rehearsing their comments. Do you really believed their replies reflected their stand or just what they think the audience want to hear ?

    The one i respected most was Prof. Agus. He was good ! Totally in control of all 3 giants and very fair/balanced.

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  14. Salam JMD,

    Lari topik sikit. Dalam ahli2 politik sibuk berpolitik, ghairah berebut kuasa, bersedia untuk berkempen pilihanraya, mereka sedar atau tidak rakyat biasa tengah risau dengan keadaan ekonomi negara dan domestik ( ekonomi personal ) yang semakin meruncing ?!

    Saya ke pasar di kampung saya tadi. Makcik2 berniaga kuih mengeluh, kuih2 jualan bertambun tak ada pembeli. Penjual nasi lemak, nasi minyak rugi terpaksa buang makanan yang basi, kerana kurang pembeli. Kuasa membeli rakyat telah berkurang dengan drastik ! Tanyalah para peniaga runcit.

    Tolonglah wahai para pemimpin, kurangkanlah berpolitik. Pilihanraya memerlukan belanja jutaan RM belum masuk belanja parti2 politik terutama Umno nanti. Negara perlukan perhatian anda !

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  15. hi jeb,

    i’ve heard so much about how eloquent and articulate KJ is and how people seem to equate those traits with high intelligence.

    i hope i will have a chance to watch this debate on youtube. i’m interested in observing the non-verbal indicators of the candidates. you know, while words can be prepared and polished and tone can be modulated with practice, body language is much tougher to manage. in fact, almost impossible.

    kinesics is a fascinating part of communication study (an interest of mine). subject to cultural variables, as much as 50%-65% of human communication is nonverbal. the most quoted model for analysis in the field is the mehrabian rule of 7%-38%-55% (with 7% = spoken words, 38% = tone of voice, and 55% = body language which includes facial expressions, gestures and personal space).

    and that whole thing of “air muka” jeb, intuitively, everyone knows that it can have its own revelation. of course its reliability and usefulness depend on how accurately one reads the info. but when appraising those politicians on a superficial level, this makes for interesting discussions, doncha think?😀

    JMD : Hello Mekyam. Yes, nobody can deny the power of body language. Body language often becomes the deciding factor in business deals, negotiations and even US Presidential Debates!

    Thank you.

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  16. Very seldom someone who is eloquent is also honest at the same time and this applies especially more in politics. However, voters from all walks of life prefer to elect a candidate who is such. He appears to be even more appealing, if his speech is full of rhetoric.

    It is just unfortunate most human beings have short memory, forgetting that a politician’s promise is meant to be broken and this is only discovered, after the candidate had become a member of parliament or a leader.

    A wise voter should judge a candidate’s potential based on his conduct and past performances. It is always prudent to assume that most candidates have got ‘the ringgit’ up in their mind and once voted in, there is nothing much the voters can do. He would be busy calculating the amount of ‘ringgits’ he could amass. It is a gamble worth taking by virtually the majority of politicians and it does not happen only in third world countries. It is as rare as a hen’s teeth people join politics today to help their country-men or women or improve the image of party members. More often than not, self-interest is what most will be seeking for.

    Getting mobs to support a prospective candidate to be leader is a tell-tale sign that voters have to be wary and not entrapped into believing the tales of ‘1 000 Arabian Nights’ or Gendang kosong’.

    Apparently, there are three prospective candidates vying for the title of UMNO YOUTH leader and it is hoped the best and most honest will be voted in. God willing, the one without a tertiary education in ‘Bluffology’ will be chosen to lead.

    Based on the above reasoning, I personally think the Datuk Mukhriz should be elected as the UMNO YOUTH leader, since his family back-ground is untarnished. If he were to lose out it is not surprising, since in any one country, there is no exception to this, there are more silly people than the intelligent ones who could visualize the future. Choosing the wrong person as a leader is a common mistake committed by the many. It is therefore hoped UMNO members will look at all angles before casting their votes and bear in mind, not to judge a book by its cover.

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  17. Dear JMD

    Unfortunately I missed the programme. I hope it was worthy of your time. Anyway, IMHO there is very little to choose between the three. Everyone of them have some kind of baggage that does not really bode well for the future of UMNO or Malaysia. Effectively we are looking at three potential future UMNO Presidential candidate that will also be Prime Minister of Malaysia. The question we have to ask ourselves are these the people that we will consider to run Malaysia (officially run Malaysia). And even more importantly can the citizens identify with these people as future leaders for Malaysia.

    After 50 over years of Merdeka, the patience is wearing thin and the citizens are now less forgiving especially to perceived excesses. If anyone of them were to win and yet not one is identifiable by the citizens as a future leader, we are really looking at the beginning of the end of UMNO and BN as the citizens will do the utmost to ensure that only leaders that are perceived to be morally and physically clean can lead in Malaysia.

    If you ask me let me just say that I have continued to be disappointed by the quality of candidates being nominated for UMNOs top echelon. (Allow me to digress). To even consider to nominate Mat Taib and Thamby Chik let alone to get them to qualify already boggles the mind. After all that has happened haven’t UMNO learnt enough? Haven’t the members learnt anything at all, let me correct myself, haven’t the Branch and Division Leaders learnt anything at all?

    Accept the fact that our citizens out there do not want these people. General decent human beings (i.e. our citizens) are just plain disgusted by their behaviour and how thicked skinned and shameless they are. Instead of merely focusing on what UMNO wants it is also time to consider and evaluate what the citizens (that gives and takes away your power) want.

    Stop forcing down the citizens’ throats characters that even lacks the normal sense of human decency.

    Thank you for your time. Sorry I digressed too much. Probably because I am sad that the UMNO leaders still fail to see the writings on the wall (and what’s chiselled on a gravestone) if they still continue to ignore the people. Without them realising it the greatest asset that Anwar Ibrahim have now is UMNO in its present state. And I for one do not want AI to be forced down my throat either. Between the devil and the deep blue sea. Damned if we do and damned if we don’t.

    Have a good day.

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  18. Salam JMD.
    HUJAH pada malam tersebut agak menarik juga dengan Prof Agus bijak mengawal suasana dan melontarkan isu-isu yang memanaskan telinga ahli-ahli panel.

    Namun begitu dengan adanya 3 orang pemimpin mengutarakan hujah dan pendirian masing-masing, masa yang diperuntukan kelihatan terlalu terhad sehinggakan ada isu-isu yang dibincangkan agak tergantung tanpa penjelasan lanjut.

    Apapun syabas kepada mereka kerana sekurang-kurangnya mereka berjaya duduk bersama “on air” secara langsung tanpa mendedahkan kelemahan lawan masing-masing.

    Secara peribadi, calon terbaik bagi memenangi jawatan ketua pemuda mestilah seorang yang baik pekerti, bijak, bersemangat kental, berfikiran tajam, strategis, optimistik dan menjauhi kontroversi. (Jika Dato Rozabil jadi “campaign manager” – you can forget about it)

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  19. dear jmd,

    i missed the whole thing on tele the other night due to my children wanting to watch an american dvd cartoon.

    thanks to the links provided, i am now, more informed.

    off the 3 sitting up there on that night, 2 were rhetorical politicians (and downright nauseating to watch). 1 was unfortunately a novice that has a childish chuckle but has a sincerity shining through his face (pun intended).

    hope the perwakilans do not disappoint this time.

    JMD : Terima kasih. Sila baca link ini juga jika ada kelapangan. Terima kasih.

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  20. Mekyam,

    Do you remember during Bush Sr’s tenure Dan Quayle was touted to be a “killer VP” by lots of so called “Kinesics Experts” during the Presidential debates and it later turned out that Danny here would later become the dumbest-ever American Vice President ever. He was so out-of-touch, so confused and so … wrong with facts that he could be topped only by first nephew Dubya in inanity and dumbness. So no. Never, ever believe in Kinesics or such. Its not even Science: its perhaps old wives’ remedies.

    Its almost like Astrology: to believe that one’s divorce, lottery wins, jiltedness or naik-pangkat, have all been pre-ordained the moment the mooooon passes the seventh sky and Jupiter traverses the midnight zenith.

    Another example of Pseudo-Science: F’ng Shui. Yes, if your house faces north (or WHATEVER) then you will have prosperity within 5 years. If there is a body of water nearby, your profit will multiply. My former chinese landlord had wanted that I should get ailing father out of the house because the smell of death is bad for F’ng Shui. Yup. And they’d think the malays are backwards because they have Islam.

    Had a friend whose boss, head of a law firm, listened to a “F’ng Shui consultant” and changed the presmise settings and even the door to his office for fear of bad F’ng Shui. Company collapsed within less than a year: probably partly because potential clients just simply couldn’t find the way to his office.

    See if F’ng Shui or the KPUMNO Trilogy can top up the following Dan Quayle’s:-

    ========

    “I love California. I practically grew up in Phoenix.”

    “Unfortunately, the people of Louisiana are not racists.”

    “I have made good judgements in the past. I have made good judgements in the future.”

    “When I have been asked during these last weeks who caused the riots and the killing in L.A., my answer has been direct and simple: Who is to blame for the riots? The rioters are to blame. Who is to blame for the killings? The killers are to blame.”

    “Bank failures are caused by depositors who don’t deposit enough money to cover losses due to mismanagement.”

    “One word sums up probably the responsibility of any vice president, and that one word is ‘to be prepared.’ “

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  21. A’kum JMD,

    Saya sebenarnya lebih terpikat dgn persona dan cara pengupasan isu KJ walaupon muka dia agak mencebik (kamera pun nakal). Khir memang pandai main sentimen agama dan kemelayuan, tetapi dgn apa yang dibangkit oleh KJ pun ada pengisian seperti ‘peralihan generasi’ dalam pemuda. Kalau tak silap saya masa Khir lepas kan jawatan dia semasa Pengerusi MBM, beliau ada sentuh bahawa dia mengosongkan jawatan kepada calon yang lebih muda.

    jadi apa sebenarnya hasrat Khir kalau dia patah balik? Jadi seorang ‘pet-brother’ kepada Pemuda ke? Macam lah KP KP Bahagian tak matang utk menguruskan bahagian mereka sendiri.

    Salam JMD dan tahniah analisis yang baik, tapi KJ you tak sangat ya?

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  22. From what I have seen during the debate…MM is the most intelligent deep thinking person. KJ was only defending his father in law and wanna show the world he is indeed as clever as his oxford degree suggest, lots of IQ but less EQ. KT was trying very hard to impress.

    MM can see the the whole forest not just the trees… he is my choice no doubt about it.

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  23. Nah,

    Kinesics…dunno lah…

    Have tested it. Blatantly lied (tested, I mean) about a hundred times or more, and worked every time!

    Just flash a smile, make empty promises in pretentious words…I watch the politicians and wannabes.

    And I didn’t slip up like Danny Quayle!

    Maybe many need courses to identify the liars? I heard there are online courses…

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  24. Salam semua…

    Pada saya, kepandaian bercakap tidak semestinya melambangkan kebolehan berkhidmat dengan baik. Bukanlah maksud saya nak mengatakan orang yang tak pandai bercakap atau tak banyak bercakap itu sentiasa lebih baik hasil kerjanya dari orang yang pandai bercakap, tetapi sejarah dan pengalaman membuktikan orang yang hebat bercakap kebanyakannya hanya hebat bercakap sahaja – kerjabuatnya belum tentu.

    Mukhriz might have his own “skeleton in closet” but not as critical as the other two – Level 4 scandal, and state-level electoral defeat, like what a fellow commentator has already said above.

    Salam hormat.

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  25. In politic you have to be a very good communicator to convince people
    One good example is Obama himself
    In Umno history there are a few personalities very good orator , good debater and charismatic
    Bring back the talent like Nazri Aziz , Ibrahim Ali, Rahim Tambychik and Annuar Musa… they are very effective communicator…

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  26. Average Joe, “kepandaian bercakap tidak semestinya melambangkan kebolehan berkhidmat dengan baik”. You are right, but kepandaian bercakap speaks is an ADDED ADVANTAGE and therefore my vote for that night surely goes to KJ. He was very articulate and very intellectual. He should be a minister in the near future. It would be such a waste of talent if he wasn’t one.

    Thank you.

    JMD : Now how can a hardcore Pakatan Rakyat supporter who hates Umno to the core, suddenly supports KJ and wanting him to be a minister even? We thought you do not see anything good in Umno? We wonder why. Kepandaian bercakap is an added advantage? And you are voting him based on that? You should remain steadfast and vote for your Pakatan Rakyat leaders instead. Thank you.

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  27. Selepas sidang Hujah berlangsung dengan jayanya pada 17/2/09, kita telah nampak bagaimana bakal calon pemuda UMNO beraksi mengutarakan pandangan,idea dan landasan yang mereka jadikan sebagai modal untuk menaiki hierarki kepimpinan pemuda. Tanpak pada kaca mata kita siapa yang mempunyai nilai-nilai yang mampu membawa perubahan yang kita inginkan untuk memperkasakan Agama, Bangsa dan negara. Bagi saya, secara ringkasnya ingin merumuskan prestasi ketiga-tiga calon ini seperti berikut:

    YB Datuk Seri Khir Toyo – Nyata menjadi pujian kepada setiap orang yang menyaksikan forum tersebut sama ada secara “live” atau di kaca tv. Beliau mempunyai idea dan pandangan yang jelas oleh kerana pengalaman beliau yang amat luas setelah menjadi menteri besar selama 2 penggal. JMD sendiri memuji kepetahan beliau mengemukakan hujah dengan fakta-fakta jelas tanpa recycle pernyataan berulang-ulang kali. Cumanya saya ingin sentuh bab kesamaratan. MMG idea Datuk Seri Anwar akan mengadai bangsanya sendiri, tapi pada masa ini amat penting kita memberikan peluang-peluang kepada bangsa lain di negara ini namun ianya dalam konteks terkawal dan ianya perlulah tegas bagi mengelak kelemahan kepimpinan sedia ada sekarang. Majoriti mengawal minoriti, Kedua-duanya saling menghormati dan menjaga susila serta sensitivi yang termaktub didalam perlembagaan.
    perlu diingatkan, Kita perlu lebih bersifat dewasa daripada melatah dengan provokasi pihak-pihak yang berkepentingan yang hanya mahu merosakan perpaduan.

    YB Khairy Jamaluddin – Petah berkata-kata namun isi, anda boleh menilainya sendiri. saya mahu menyentuh tentang Pengajaran Math and science in english yang beliau suarakan,” satu perubahan perlu dilakukan dalam kaedah pengajaran dalam bahasa english pada math and science iaitu diperingkat rendah diajar dalam bahasa ibunda atau melayu dan diperingkat menengah dalam bahasa inggeris”. Bagi saya, jika mahu melentur buluh biarlah dari rebungnya. Bila ingin belajar,mula daripada yang senang agar mudah difahami bukan pada peringkat yang tegar otak hendak menerima. tidak luput bahasa kita didunia ini dek kerana belajar kira-kira dan sains dalam bahasa inggeris.
    Beliau juga ingin sarankan menambah “contact Hour” untuk pengajian bahasa inggeris – mengapa ingin berbuat kerja dua kali? mengapa tidak diteruskan daripada darjah satu sehinggalah peringkat menengah? Bukan kah ianya lebih berkualiti kerana kanak-kanak telah di didik dalam 2 bidang tersebut diperingkat awal sebelum mereka ke peringkat menengah?

    Datuk Mukhriz TDM – Beliau nampak bersahaja dan mudah tertawa ketika memberikan hujah beliau. namun dalam bersahaja itulah beliau nyatakan bahawa hadirnya sebagai calon ketua pemuda bukan hendak mengkayakan diri sendiri dan keluarga tapi untuk memperbaiki dan merawat kanser yang memakan UMNO. UMNO untuk melayu – UMNO untuk memperkasakan bangsa – UMNO untuk mempertabatkan Agama islam – UMNO menjadi akar kepimpinan negara.

    Oleh itu saya berpendapat hanya Datuk Seri Khir dan Datuk Mukhriz sahaja yang layak bertanding untuk merebut jawatan tersebut. oleh itu terserah kepada perwakilan yang akan mengundi mereka. UNDI ANDA MASA DEPAN KITA DAN GENERASI SETERUSNYA.

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  28. Wah, nampaknya tak ada yang komen pro Dr Khir. Ramainya berani menyokong MM dan KJ juga.

    Well, dalam hal ni, I have to say that if I were be able to vote, i will vote for KT. Yes, he probably have some good and bad track records, but he should have learn a lot now starting from the bottom.

    Yang pertama elok, yang kedua pandai.

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  29. Salam,

    I feel KT was being hypocritical when he critised current leadership of Pemuda UMNO in the program. HE said pemuda “lesu” and was more of reoresenting government’s voice rather than representing people’s voice.

    I wonder if Pemuda Umno Selangor was allowed to criticise him during his heyday as MB of Selangor? I mean I didnt hear one criticism levelled against him by Pemuda Selangor despite there were so much issues back thn. PKFZ, water issue, environmental issues, abuse of power and corruption etc etc! No one dared to tell KT off! Why? because he did not tolerate criticisms and went out of his way to “control” and curtail his PEmuda Selangor!!

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  30. Dear JMD,
    Would like to share on some of the thoughts my friends and I had over at our mamak stall tonite on these three.
    I found my perception on Khir Toyo changed for the positive when it was mentioned that he is actively involved at the front line on: –
    -Karpal and suing of the Sultan
    -Khalid on Cows and Cars
    -Eli Wong on resigning
    Guess he can be the Agent Provocoteur that some people want a Ketua Pemuda to be.

    But I cannot forget Mukhriz for his telling that the King Has No Clothes when it was convenient for all to tell Dolah that he was Gemilang, Cemerlang and Terbilang.
    Also his daring stand on the abolishment of vernacular schools as one of the obstacles to Bangsa Malaysia.
    These two issues are political minefields which he had the courage to state his stand.
    Doing the non-populist Right thing is a trait of an effective leader.

    On Khairy, we could not yet state any inspiring positives. Maybe someone out there can share with us on his achievements to Demi Ugama , Bangsa dan Negara.

    Regards.

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  31. YNWA JMD,
    To be honest, ever since RPK wrote about KT running away with this KP election, I have been more inclined to believe it. Your commentary more or less confirms why KT will win this post – he articulates the party line well enough to the delegates.

    Furthermore, with KT in the pic, he will attract the a huge chunk of the anti KJ, anti Mahadey vote. Tun’s incessant attack on UMNO and his blatant hypocrisy may damage KJ, but damages DM 10x more. DM will come in a distant 3rd in this election.

    So to me, the race is more or less over. KT by a mile. KJ should not give up though, a lot of people were greatly impressed by his courage to take on so many opponents at one time.

    JMD : Your views on Tun’s attack on Umno is somewhat skewed. Tun did not attack Umno. He attacked the leadership of Umno. Just like anyone of us. Some pro KJ bloggers have no qualms attacking Datuk Najib as well. Does that construed as attacking Umno too. Even Ku Li attacked Umno prior and after March 2008. Everyone does it. It’s called criticisms. Please cut this ‘holier than thou’ attitude because eveyone within and without Umno are criticising Umno. You included. So, why lay blame on TDM only? By the way, a lot of people are impressed by DM and KT’s courage to take on a lot of opponents as well. Even before March 2008 they had been fighting a lone battle against a certain apple polishing faction within Umno. So you see, there are two different perspectives here. One may be wrong. Both could be right. Thank you.

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  32. JMD

    I did not watch the debate but has follow blogs write up on it.

    I found AK47 write up on it to be too short sighted. He is talking about how ‘benefitial’ is a certain candidate to the pm to be. Surely we should view the candidates in term of how it would affect BN cos whoever win it has a direct impact on the future of BN?

    I for one will never vote the opposition as long as AI is there. So I am sure the people that decide to vote the opposition (as protest) will be very interested in who win.

    So those who really love Malaysia should really do some soul searching before they vote.

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  33. late comment.
    i am not an umno member, but decided to go anyways because i was curious with these 3 gents. as always, hated the umno crowd. keep on staring and making crude remarks. (i think its fast becoming malaysian, anyways..)
    here is my point of view.

    KJ – articulate, wet behind the ears, reminded me of his stint during ntv7 days. more likeable back then. guess porsche cayenne can change a person. he has some good points when he opened his mouth but tend to babble and lost his audience midway through. definitely a liablity to bn and umno in particular. i believe there is a sincerity in him somewhere inside. therefore, he needs to lose this time, and comeback to prove himself. needs a lesson in humility. has a chance to change from liability to asset. his time is not now.

    MM – brave. especially the answer to science & maths in english. the only one who agreed while the two tried to play the crowd. has balls made from stainless steel. has depth. analytical. too analytical. unfortunately, no real urgency and desire to lead the Pemuda ( i think the Pemuda can sense it too. I think they want this guy but he wasnt showing it). too elegant for Pemuda. I think UMNO in general needs him more. scored alot of points when he said UMNO does not need to be apologetic.definitely the brain.

    KT -angry, burning with vengeance and desire to win. doesnt really make any sense when he talked about economy. alot of shortcoming. botox running off too. however, this is the short term answer to Pemuda. someone who will drag them kicking and screaming. the lethargic Pemuda needs vengeance, anger and desire to win. this guy has doses of them. he lost before, so he knows where and how to thread the water.

    so my verdict? dont have any really. but logically, it should be KT. unless something magical happens and MM managed to scour the depth of his heart to finf enough desire to want to lead the Pemuda. KJ? not writing him off. his time is just not now. he knows that he needs to get rid of the Dolah stigma first.

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  34. Quote:
    Average Joe, “kepandaian bercakap tidak semestinya melambangkan kebolehan berkhidmat dengan baik”. You are right, but kepandaian bercakap speaks is an ADDED ADVANTAGE and therefore my vote for that night surely goes to KJ. He was very articulate and very intellectual. He should be a minister in the near future. It would be such a waste of talent if he wasn’t one.

    Thank you.

    JMD : Now how can a hardcore Pakatan Rakyat supporter who hates Umno to the core, suddenly supports KJ and wanting him to be a minister even? We thought you do not see anything good in Umno? We wonder why. Kepandaian bercakap is an added advantage? And you are voting him based on that? You should remain steadfast and vote for your Pakatan Rakyat leaders instead. Thank you.

    Pantang Derhaka shows us a very good example of being “lidah bercabang”. Komen di topik satu lagi kutuk UMNO dan penyokong UMNO, komen di sini pula sibuk nak sokong salah seorang calon KP UMNO. Kalau dah pembangkang tu jaga sajalah tepi kain sendiri yg robak-rabik itu, jangan sibuk nak jaga tepi kain UMNO. Atau awak suka selak kain macam Abe Jak?

    “Added advantage” adds nothing if the person has nothing in the fundamental part. Anwar Ibrahim perhaps has the best of this so-called “added advantage”, tetapi di mana Anwar sekarang? Tercapaikah cita-cita Sept 16 nya? Tinggal angan-angan mat jenin. NOTHING. The same goes to Khairy. Apa kerja dia selama ni yg betul2 memberi hasil positif? Nothing. Corporate daylight robbery by ECM Libra on Avenue Capital is just the tip of an iceberg. Dia naik dalam FAM, ranking bolasepak Malaysia terus jatuh! To cut it short, NOTHING.

    JMD : Thank you Joe for the comments. Really appreciate it.

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  35. Salam JMD,

    Saya cuma nak tahu. Dalam banyak-banyak gambar tu, yang mana satu JMD?

    JMD : Minta maaf Sujini, saya tiada di dalam gambar. Frust sungguh!🙂

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  36. Salam lagi..

    Urrgh….!!! Tak pe lah.

    Sdra , saya ada dengar desas desus mengenai prospek Dr Mukhriz akan menang ialah 50-50. Jadi saya nak kirimkan pesan kepada beliau kalau boleh.

    Sekiranya niat ikhlas nak jadi pemimpin.
    Sekiranya nak membawa perubahan didalam UMNO dan seterusnya dalam negara.
    Kenalah pecahkan ruyung dahulu.
    Jangan cepat putus asa.
    Pantang anak Melayu mati sebelum berjuang.

    JMD : Minta maaf, saya tidak ada direct contact dengan Datuk Mukhriz. Tetapi saudari boleh lah berinteraksi di blog beliau sendiri – http://www.mukhriz.com/

    Terima kasih.

    Sekian. Harap dapat sampaikan. Terima kasih.

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  37. Hello JMD and Bloggers

    KJ adalah jaguh sebenar, kerana dia berfikiran jauh. Tidak main kan issue perkauman spt KT kerana mau menang pilihanraya kecil 3 Bukit. Macam si Mukhriz pula terlalu flip flop, first he said use ISA to curb street demo culture, but later made a ref to speakers corner in Hyde Park. London is famous for street demos from farmers taking the streets, anti-hunting, students, pro Palestine, to Greenpeace to NHS. But you dont see the Terrorism Act or PACE 87 used irresponsibly to break the demos down.

    Populism is not sustainable for UMNO, maybe for PR. think out of the box a bit lah. Mukhriz is a moderate, not like his Ultra dad. by yourself man.

    JMD : KJ berfikiran jauh? Okay. By the way, please watch the forum again regarding the speaker’s corner in Hyde Park before you speak of flip flopping. Because I believe, you have misconstrued what he had said. And by the way, have you really seen how British Police break down demos? They are far more brutal than what we have here. Thank you.

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  39. Kos tambang perjalanan udara bekas Menteri Besar Selangor, Datuk Seri Dr Mohamad Khir Toyo ke luar negara dari September 2001 hingga Januari tahun lepas berjumlah RM349,134 yang melibatkan 21 perjalanan.

    Antara destinasi luar negara yang dikunjungi oleh beliau ialah London, Bangkok, Beijing, Los Angeles, Dubai, Osaka, Tokyo, Seoul, Taipei, Paris, Perth, Milan, Venice dan Amsterdam.

    JMD : Thank you for tirelessly copy pasting snippets from many sources to be put in the commentary section of this blog.

    Highlighting purported corruption of previous government is highly applauded especially if it involves BN officials. I hope if these BN leaders are guilty after being charged in the court of law, BN can start anew without these corrupted leaders.

    As we all know, the opposition are very afraid if BN can cleanse itself of corruption.

    Thank you.

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